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To: NKP_Vet; Elsie

May be Protestants need to get their own Bible and not use the canonical texts as established by our early theologians (The Church Fathers) who after more than 200 years after the death of Christ sorted out hundreds of written fragments, cross-checked them against the sacred and received oral tradition, and in the Synod of Rome in AD 382 formally declared these texts as the authentic Word of God.

The Books in the Bible did not fall from the skies and self-assemble themselves. Thus if Petrine authority was the infallible source for this selection and arrangement of books it did not disappear ELEVEN centuries later with the curse of the Reformation in the fifteenth century.

Renowned English essayist Hillaire Belloc in his book, “The Great Heresies,” put it best when he wrote that unlike other heresies, Protestantism “spawned a whole cluster of heresies.”

There are so many shoals of shallow fish to bait, that every Protestant denomination, some 30,000 of them will always have some adherents of one sort or another, to say nothing of the Joel Osteens, Billy Grahams, David Koresh’s, Jim Jones’s, and the Rev. Jeremiah Wrights. They all have one thing in common in amassing fortunes for themselves and their families by preaching what is in essence vapid rot.

Here’s a mind boggling list of serious intellectuals who have studied, explored. and finally concerted to Catholicism.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_converts_to_Catholicism


124 posted on 05/17/2015 4:53:41 PM PDT by Steelfish
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To: Steelfish

Other notable converts are Chief Seattle, Sitting Bull, Buffalo Bill Cody, Kit Carson, and Chief Black Elk.


130 posted on 05/17/2015 5:53:35 PM PDT by NKP_Vet ("All the evils in the world are due to lukewarm Catholics" ~ Pope Pius V)
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To: Steelfish
May be Protestants need to get their own Bible ...

No thanks; yours works quite well enough to show how Rome's application of it differs SO much from what the text actually teaches.

144 posted on 05/18/2015 4:12:26 AM PDT by Elsie ( Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Steelfish
to say nothing of the Joel Osteens, Billy Grahams, David Koresh’s, Jim Jones’s, and the Rev. Jeremiah Wrights.

IF these guys had been popes you'd easily explain away their minor peccadillo's.

145 posted on 05/18/2015 4:13:45 AM PDT by Elsie ( Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Steelfish
The Books in the Bible did not fall from the skies and self-assemble themselves. Thus if Petrine authority was the infallible source for this selection and arrangement of books it did not disappear ELEVEN centuries later with the curse of the Reformation in the fifteenth century.

I'm sure there is a logical point in these two sentences; but it has eluded my feeble mind.

146 posted on 05/18/2015 4:15:04 AM PDT by Elsie ( Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Steelfish
May be Protestants need to get their own Bible and not use the canonical texts as established by our early theologians (The Church Fathers) who after more than 200 years after the death of Christ sorted out hundreds of written fragments, cross-checked them against the sacred and received oral tradition, and in the Synod of Rome in AD 382 formally declared these texts as the authentic Word of God.

Because the Protestant Reformation occurred several centuries later, that church was the church of the Protestant forefathers too. Both Catholics and Protestants can trace their spiritual lineage back to that church. When a tree forks both forks have a claim to the truck. Given the corruption that Martin Luther was confronting, you have no assurance that the Early Church Fathers would have sided with Catholic Church at the Reformation.

The Books in the Bible did not fall from the skies and self-assemble themselves. Thus if Petrine authority was the infallible source for this selection and arrangement of books it did not disappear ELEVEN centuries later with the curse of the Reformation in the fifteenth century.

For the preservation of God's Word, we can thank the Holy Spirit, not a bunch of men in black robes.

Renowned English essayist...Here’s a mind boggling list of serious intellectuals

Enough with the puffery already. Can't these people's thoughts and accomplishments stand on their own merit?

There are so many shoals of shallow fish to bait, that every Protestant denomination, some 30,000 of them will always have some adherents of one sort or another, to say nothing of the Joel Osteens, Billy Grahams, David Koresh’s, Jim Jones’s, and the Rev. Jeremiah Wrights.

There are many serious, conscientious, well-educated, intelligent Protestants. To imply that they are "shoals of shallow fish to bait" is ignorance and/or arrogance in the extreme. Insults have no place in intelligent discourse.

They all have one thing in common in amassing fortunes for themselves and their families by preaching what is in essence vapid rot.

For every lucre-motivated pastor, there are thousands of preachers who pastor small flocks with no plans or desires to get rich, often holding another job or two to keep the church going. To say nothing of the thousands of Protestant missionaries who suffer hardship and forego other careers to spread the Word. This constant refrain of yours slanders many, many conscientious Christians.

176 posted on 05/18/2015 8:24:39 AM PDT by CommerceComet (Ignore the GOP-e. Cruz to victory in 2016.)
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