To: StormPrepper; RnMomof7
[RnMomof7]In religion, a prophet is an individual who is claimed to have been contacted by the supernatural or the divine, and to speak for them, serving as an intermediary with humanity, delivering this newfound knowledge from the supernatural entity to other people.
SP: You ask me how I know what I said, then you restate exactly what I said using different words. That's confusing.
I know this because that's the pattern God has set from Adam on down...Even the prophets spoken of by John in Rev 11, first stand before God then prophesy to the people.
Every prophet speaks God's message. Not all who speak prophetically have stood before God in the sense of Isaiah or Moses. There is no record of David receiving a direct vision from or audience with God. God spoke to David through Nathan. Yet we have Psalm 22, a Davidic psalm that is a definite Messianic prophecy and confirmed to be such in the apostolic record.
Also consider Caiaphas, the High Priest in Israel, who is confirmed to have spoken prophetically that Jesus would die for the nation. No divine vision there, yet God in His magnificent wisdom and power was able to take the evil planned by this wicked man and turn it into a blessed prophecy of God's love for His people, that Jesus would die for their benefit.
Bottom line, while there is no dispute that God has indeed on occasion given His message to a prophet through a supernatural vision or apparition, there is no limitation on God being able to send His message through those who have not had such visions themselves, but have nevertheless been moved by the Spirit of God to speak the words of God. God is sovereign.
Peace,
SR
To: Springfield Reformer
...there is no limitation on God being able to send His message through those who have not had such visions themselves, but have nevertheless been moved by the Spirit of God to speak the words of God.
A particular talking donkey comes to mind.
To: Springfield Reformer
Not all who speak prophetically have stood before God in the sense of Isaiah or Moses.
Honestly, how would you know?
There is no record of David receiving a direct vision from or audience with God.
Right, there's no record. But then again there's no record of anyone peeing in the Bible either... You can disagree if you want, but I'm pretty sure they did...
God spoke to David through Nathan. Yet we have Psalm 22, a Davidic psalm that is a definite Messianic prophecy and confirmed to be such in the apostolic record.
If the prophesy was David's and not David quoting someone else, he would have had to have his own communication with God.
Also consider Caiaphas, the High Priest in Israel, who is confirmed to have spoken prophetically that Jesus would die for the nation. No divine vision there,
Because if they didn't write down every instance of it, it never happen, right?
There is a difference between someone, who through the Holy Ghost prophesies, and an actual prophet who relays the instructions of God to the people.
An actual prophet holds a special place in the hierarchy of God. Where much is given, much is expected. God gives them a vision or visitation in order to give them a higher knowledge and higher purpose. They need that in order to endure the hardships that come with their calling. Most of the prophets faced death at the hands of those they giving their message to.
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