Posted on 05/09/2015 7:44:31 AM PDT by RnMomof7
Millions of sincere Catholics wear the brown scapular thinking by doing so it will help them spiritually. They believed the report that Mary made and is backing a salvation promise in connection with the brown scapular hundreds of years ago based on their religious traditions. Over the years wearing the brown scapular has been perpetuated by sincere Catholic leaders, such as the one in this video, but it is in complete futility that it is worn. It is a false hope and a spiritual snare. It is not based on Gods truth and is, therefore, just as deadly for the sincere Catholic as it is for the Hindu who bathes in the Ganges River thinking his sins will be washed away in the water or for the Muslim who kisses the black stone of Kaaba to be forgiven! [The picture to the right is Mel Gibson, the director of the Passion of Christ, wearing a brown scapular as he smokes.]
I too once wore the brown scapular as an Ex Roman Catholic. I know what it is like to be taught something and accept it as truth to find out later it is not only unscriptural, but anti-scriptural. It hurts, but TRUTH is what we must stand on to be safe. It takes humility in such cases to turn.
NOTE: At about 2:23 time-wise into the video, the speaker is quoted below. How could anyone deny that Mary is deified in Catholicism? Surely, this rampant idolatry is grieving to the Lord Jesus Christ and God the Father. This is what Catholicism teaches about the brown scapular:
And so, wearing of the brown scapular reminds us, should remind us, of three things. First, that we are children of Mary. Second of all, that we need to work for our Lady. And finally, it should be a garment of humility and penance. First, by the brown scapular we profess ourselves to be children of Mary. The scapular of our Lady is a badge or a uniform so to speak by which we profess to whom we belong and who we serve. Likewise, our Lady in turn by wearing the brown scapular, she recognizes us as her children, as her special children. And because of that, she consequently protects us and watches over us. The brown scapular should also remind us that we need to work for our Lady because the scapular, which means shoulder garment, was originally that, it was a garment worn by religious in order to protect their habit, their religious habit that they wore on a daily basis during those periods of work to keep it from getting dirty, stained, from ripping, etc. and so therefore the scapular is a working garb. And so this should remind us that theres no room for lazy piety. If we wear the brown scapular and we consider ourselves our Ladys children, theres no place for lazy piety but rather we should fill our lives with good works. This brown scapular should remind us the need to faithfully fulfill our daily duties, and to make another adaptation of Scripture, to labor as good soldiers of the Immaculate. Finally, the third place, the brown scapular is also a garment of humility and of penance. So in a spirit of penance, we should accept all the difficulties of our state of life and all the sufferings that our Lady may want to send us. And the scapular will give us the strength to do this. In all of our difficulties, we can always grab onto our brown scapular, remind ourselves of our Ladys protection, her watchfulness, her presence and especially at the moment of death, when we can call to mind our Ladys promise of salvation. Our Lady of Mount Carmel, pray for us.
* Not a single word about Jesus was mentioned there.
* The brown scapular is 100% religious mythology and idolatry, as Mary is deified as a type of Savior.
* No Bible light shines from such brown scapular Catholic tradition.
#3 is not my post. Why are you writing to me?
It was in regards to the post you linked to in an attempt to “explain” this false idol worship.
Why do muslims wear all those rags around their heads?
Why did the gay pride movement take the rainbow as their symbol?
Why does Islam say they don’t believe in killing people, but yet they do?
Yeah! And what about that Alabama-Auburn rivalry! Who’s doing anything about THAT?
It appears when the false teachings of catholicism are exposed to the light, catholics start crying about being "kicked."
**linked to in an attempt to explain this false idol worship.**
Aren’t you pre-judging my motives? You can’t read my mind. To me that is making it personal.
Under conviction of their sins?
Somewhere, deep inside, some are not sure this mass and eucharist deal is adequate enough...or even prayers to Mary the mother of Jesus to forward at some point to her son...or even hearing an unknown and dead tongue such as Latin spoken in solemnity during very peculiar (Christian?) worship rituals and practices...or priests doing this and doing that and swinging this smoker and that and chanting the religious talk...and the Lord Jesus Christ is still either a little child or a corpse on a cross forever.
I don’t cry anything, really. When I’m being lectured on the perils of the brown scapular by a member of a Presbyterian Church that just voted recognize and perform homosexual marriages, there really isn’t much left to talk about.
If the Mainline Protestants around here want to further distance themselves from their Catholic cousins, there’s not much I can do about it. A flame war certain isn’t going to help.
How else would a reader take this but you were trying to share more information on this topic in an attempt to explain it??
If that was not your purpose, then why did you post the link????
More information for you: Being Catholic: Sacred Things, Scapulars [Ecumenical]
15 posted on 5/9/2015 11:19:39 AM by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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You also posted this one:
To: RnMomof7
The truth: Millions of people wear the brown scapular thanks to this English mystic (Catholic Caucus)
11 posted on 5/9/2015 11:14:19 AM by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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Again, if your motive was not to explain this.....why did you post not one, but TWO articles on this????
Whoa.....stop the train!
You presume you know what church I go to. You are in error.
Corrected for accuracy.
I don’t presume anything. The thread starter, the person “lecturing Catholics about the perils of the brown scapular”, is a self-identified Presbyterian.
Below is another article written by yet another embittered and empty fallen away catholic......
I sure hope you not an attorney or teacher of young minds with your logic skills.
The best known and most highly esteemed scapular, and the one most favored by the Church, and by the Blessed Virgin in many of her apparitions, is the Brown Scapular of Our Lady of Mt. Carmel. It is adapted from the scapular of the Carmelite Order and represents a special Consecration to Our Lady under the title of Our Lady of Mt. Carmel. Those who wear it practice it a special devotion to Mary. In the past this was the Little Office of Our Lady, but today this can be commuted by any priest to the rosary. In addition, the person has a special entrustment of themselves to Mary for their salvation. This, in fact, has been promised to those who faithfully wear the scapular: "Those who die wearing this scapular shall not suffer eternal fire." This must not be understood superstitiously or magically, but in light of Catholic teaching that perseverance in faith, hope and love are required for salvation. The scapular is a powerful reminder of this Christian obligation and of Mary's promise to help those consecrated to her obtain the grace of final perseverance. https://www.ewtn.com/expert/answers/brown_scapular.htm
Then you need to make that clear in your post and give a courtesy ping to the OP.
Hey rmmomof7, did you know you were PCUSA?
“The picture... is Mel Gibson, the director of the Passion of Christ, wearing a brown scapular as he smokes.”
One of my favorite anecdotes about polling, is that a majority of people surveyed will approve of praying while smoking, but if the the question is phrased as smoking while praying, the majority will disapprove (true story).
People’s understanding of things is subjective and changing - even the most brilliant and educated. Human minds are limited. Our concepts can not fully encompass divinity, and words are just limited placeholders for concepts - themselves subject to imperfect understanding from one person to another.
To be rigidly certain of an interpretation of something written thousands of years ago in a very different context, and translated through several different languages in many different contexts; strikes me as a poor risk in practice. Fundamentalism, by definition.
To get at the heart of religion is to help people live holier lives, and guide them to the divine. With as many people as there are, with all their varying levels of ability and comprehension, variations in explanation and practice are needed to benefit all. You don’t explain things to a small child the same way, for example.
With a billion Catholics, and a long history, some variation is to be expected, to meet the needs of different people and changing circumstances. Some folks are very intellectual and are focused on philosophical explanations, while others are more emotional and are moved by compassion to help others. Everyone has some changing mix of such tendencies.
If millions of people practice using a small brown scapula to try to improve their behavior, that is a great thing.
Lighten up Francis.
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