Posted on 05/09/2015 7:44:31 AM PDT by RnMomof7
Millions of sincere Catholics wear the brown scapular thinking by doing so it will help them spiritually. They believed the report that Mary made and is backing a salvation promise in connection with the brown scapular hundreds of years ago based on their religious traditions. Over the years wearing the brown scapular has been perpetuated by sincere Catholic leaders, such as the one in this video, but it is in complete futility that it is worn. It is a false hope and a spiritual snare. It is not based on Gods truth and is, therefore, just as deadly for the sincere Catholic as it is for the Hindu who bathes in the Ganges River thinking his sins will be washed away in the water or for the Muslim who kisses the black stone of Kaaba to be forgiven! [The picture to the right is Mel Gibson, the director of the Passion of Christ, wearing a brown scapular as he smokes.]
I too once wore the brown scapular as an Ex Roman Catholic. I know what it is like to be taught something and accept it as truth to find out later it is not only unscriptural, but anti-scriptural. It hurts, but TRUTH is what we must stand on to be safe. It takes humility in such cases to turn.
NOTE: At about 2:23 time-wise into the video, the speaker is quoted below. How could anyone deny that Mary is deified in Catholicism? Surely, this rampant idolatry is grieving to the Lord Jesus Christ and God the Father. This is what Catholicism teaches about the brown scapular:
And so, wearing of the brown scapular reminds us, should remind us, of three things. First, that we are children of Mary. Second of all, that we need to work for our Lady. And finally, it should be a garment of humility and penance. First, by the brown scapular we profess ourselves to be children of Mary. The scapular of our Lady is a badge or a uniform so to speak by which we profess to whom we belong and who we serve. Likewise, our Lady in turn by wearing the brown scapular, she recognizes us as her children, as her special children. And because of that, she consequently protects us and watches over us. The brown scapular should also remind us that we need to work for our Lady because the scapular, which means shoulder garment, was originally that, it was a garment worn by religious in order to protect their habit, their religious habit that they wore on a daily basis during those periods of work to keep it from getting dirty, stained, from ripping, etc. and so therefore the scapular is a working garb. And so this should remind us that theres no room for lazy piety. If we wear the brown scapular and we consider ourselves our Ladys children, theres no place for lazy piety but rather we should fill our lives with good works. This brown scapular should remind us the need to faithfully fulfill our daily duties, and to make another adaptation of Scripture, to labor as good soldiers of the Immaculate. Finally, the third place, the brown scapular is also a garment of humility and of penance. So in a spirit of penance, we should accept all the difficulties of our state of life and all the sufferings that our Lady may want to send us. And the scapular will give us the strength to do this. In all of our difficulties, we can always grab onto our brown scapular, remind ourselves of our Ladys protection, her watchfulness, her presence and especially at the moment of death, when we can call to mind our Ladys promise of salvation. Our Lady of Mount Carmel, pray for us.
* Not a single word about Jesus was mentioned there.
* The brown scapular is 100% religious mythology and idolatry, as Mary is deified as a type of Savior.
* No Bible light shines from such brown scapular Catholic tradition.
Two Jesuit novices both wanted a cigarette while they prayed. They decided to ask their superior for permission.
The first asked but was told no. A little while later he spotted his friend smoking and praying. "Why did the superior allow you to smoke and not me?" he asked.
His friend replied, "Because you asked if you could smoke while you prayed, and I asked if I could pray while I smoked!"
Yes...
Bonaventure: the gates of heaven will open to all who confide in the protection of Mary. Blessed are they who know thee, O Mother of God, for the knowledge of THEE is the high road to everlasting life, and the publication of thy virtues is the way of ETERNAL SALVATION . Give ear, O ye nations; and all you who desire heaven , serve, honor Mary, and certainly you will find ETERNAL LIFE.
Ephem: devotion to the divine Mother is the unlocking of the heavenly Jerusalem.
Blosius: To the, O Lady, are committed the KEYS and the treasures of the kingdom of Heaven.
Ambrose: constantly pray Open to us, O Mary, the gates of paradise, since thou hast its KEYS.
Fulgetius: by Mary God descended from Heaven into the world, that by HER man might ascend from earth to Heaven.
Athanasius: And, thou, O Lady, wast filled with grace, that thou mightiest be the way of our SALVATION and the means of ascent to the heavenly Kingdom.
Richard of Laurence: Mary, in fine, is the mistress of heaven; for there she commands as she wills, and ADMITS whom she wills.
Guerric: he who serves Mary and for whom she intercedes, is as CERTAIN of heaven as if he were already there and those who DO NOT serve Mary will NOT BE SAVED.
Anselm: It suffices, O Lady, that thou willest it, and our SALVATION is certain.
Antoninus:
souls protected by Mary, and on which she casts her eyes, are NECESSARILY JUSTIFIED AND SAVED.
Why?
Not used to pushback?
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There is no double standard. Protestants and Catholics both think the other are ignorant of the truth. That’s the nature of an irreconcilable difference. Wasting a Saturday afternoon going back and forth belaboring the point isn’t going to change that dynamic.
I didn’t complain about anything in Post #135. Somebody said Catholics were willfully ignorant of history (a post you didn’t take any issue with). I responded with something almost all Lutherans are also willfully ignorant of: Martin Luther’s “The Jews & Their Lies”.
Simple back and forth. There was no implication that one thing was okay and the other was not. There was action, there was reaction. Pretty basic. I’m totally fine with you all calling Catholics whatever you like.
I wonder why such ardent Conservative FR Catholics whine about it and don't merely DOUBLE the amount they donate.
Problem solved and look at all the bragging righta they'd accrue!
Little late to the party, sweetie.
Even better!
Rome could fund an AlmostFreeRepublic website that EXCLUDES the pesky Prots!
SURELY that would garner MILLIONS of hits from folks wanting to read truth; Truth; TRUTH!!!
Likewise...
Catholics coined the phrase Mother of GOD for a reason.
Saying we see her as a “god” is a gross misrepresentation. One might even call it a blatant lie.
But really... there’s nothing to be accomplished here. We’re just running laps at this point. And I have some outdoor speakers to install for our Memorial Day party in a couple weeks. So, if you don’t mind, I’m going to salvage the rest of my afternoon.
Pointing out that Rome's Mary and the Biblical Mary are really different usually causes heads to explode.
Not when read in context.
There are varied versions.
These usually result from a non-use of the Greek and Hebrew.
There are non-literal allegorical statements in scripture, like the parables told by Jesus.
No...these are not allegory. They are parables.
Translations between languages are less 100% accurate (Aramaic to Hebrew to Greek to Latin to English).
The NT was written in Greek so no Aramaic to worry about. If we go from Greek to any language there is a slight difference in translation. Hence it befalls upon the teacher to explain the nuances of Greek to be sure the English (or whatever language) hearer understands the text.
There are timelines (like the flood) which dont hold up to archeological evidence.
You presume the Bible is in error in the account of the flood and or possibly creation. If these are not literal, actual accounts, why were there referenced in the NT?
Councils of people selected what was to be included and excluded.
If you're referring to the canon, the church decided what was included and not. There were several conditions the church required to have a text included.
Meanings and usage change over time. If I were to note in my journal in 1970 that someone was cool, by 2570 a reader might think it miraculous that their body temperature was abnormally low.
This is true and which is why we should rely upon the Greek in understanding the word. The Greek does not change.
I could; but you're too ignert to understand it!
--CAtholic_wanna_Be(Hail Mary!)
Book, chapter and verse please when quoting scripture
Since I cannot read your mind ;), I would suggest adding this to something like the written guidelines in the profile.
So when you say many things about Mary which ARE Biblical FACTS, and then throw some apparitions and visitations that are not, it becomes that worst kind of lie of all.
Let's try some easy math:
There are approximately 1.2 billion Catholics world wide;
If merely 1% of them 'ask' Mary for help just once each day;
that means that 12 million separate prayers are headed Mary's direction every day.
Given that there are 86,400 seconds per day... (24 hours times 60 minutes times 60 seconds)
...that means that Mary has to handle approximately 139 'requests' per second!
Purty good fer someone NOT 'divine'!
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