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To: CynicalBear

The fact of the matter is, that unless one rejects the belief in free will, one can’t believe the human authors of Scripture were some kind of secretary, writing down word for word what God dictated. Now were there some instances where during a vision or some other miraculous event they were given words to write down? Obviously. But where such miracles are NOT described we are not to believe they were some robots when they wrote Scripture or else there’s really no such thing as “free will”.

This is why the authors are always called the “inspired authors”. Their inspiration came from God but the words were theirs (unless specifically indicated otherwise). St. Paul’s writings were, for the most part, LETTERS for goodness sakes. Do you think he sat down to write those letters, went into some kind of trance, and then allowed his hands and arms to move a pen to shape some letters and words that weren’t his own?

Really?


630 posted on 04/30/2015 10:06:57 AM PDT by FourtySeven (47)
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To: CynicalBear

PAUL...To all that are at Rome, the beloved of God, called to be saints. Grace to you and peace, from God our Father... Rom 1:1-7.

1:1 PAUL, called to be an apostle of Jesus Christ by the will of God, and Sosthenes a brother, 1:2 To the church of God that is at Corinth, to them that are sanctified in Christ Jesus, called to be saints, with all that invoke the name of our Lord Jesus Christ in every place of theirs and ours. 1 Cor 1:1-2

2 Corinthians 1
1:1 PAUL, an apostle of Jesus Christ by the will of God, and Timothy our brother: to the church of God that is at Corinth, with all the saints that are in all Achaia:

1:1 PAUL, an apostle, not of men, neither by man, but by Jesus Christ and God the Father, who raised him from the dead:
1:2 And all the brethren who are with me: to the churches of Galatia. Gal 1:1

Need I go on? Clearly it’s PAUL who is writing those letters. No where do any of his greetings say, in other words, “I Paul, writing for the Holy Spirit...”

No! It’s HIS (Paul’s own) words he’s writing. He’s not some secretary or dictation machine.


635 posted on 04/30/2015 10:16:03 AM PDT by FourtySeven (47)
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To: FourtySeven; CynicalBear
This is why the authors are always called the “inspired authors”. Their inspiration came from God but the words were theirs (unless specifically indicated otherwise). St. Paul’s writings were, for the most part, LETTERS for goodness sakes. Do you think he sat down to write those letters, went into some kind of trance, and then allowed his hands and arms to move a pen to shape some letters and words that weren’t his own?

Really?

Instead of you using your own logic and common sense, perhaps you should see what the bible says about it...Oh, that's right, you guys don't believe God...

1Co 7:6 But I speak this by permission, and not of commandment.
1Co 7:7 For I would that all men were even as I myself. But every man hath his proper gift of God, one after this manner, and another after that.

So we can believe your common sense, or, we can believe God...

2Pe_1:21 For the prophecy came not in old time by the will of man: but holy men of God spake as they were moved by the Holy Ghost.

Mat_5:18 For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled.

God approved of every word, including every and, if, by, to and ignorant...

What you think about it means nothing...

698 posted on 04/30/2015 3:16:18 PM PDT by Iscool
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To: FourtySeven

God said the words were His. Nuff said.


718 posted on 04/30/2015 4:20:44 PM PDT by CynicalBear (For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus)
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To: FourtySeven
St. Paul’s writings were, for the most part, LETTERS for goodness sakes. Do you think he sat down to write those letters, went into some kind of trance, and then allowed his hands and arms to move a pen to shape some letters and words that weren’t his own?

Quicksand, you're running on...
721 posted on 04/30/2015 5:42:40 PM PDT by Resettozero
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