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To: Iscool
Baptize means water???

Er... no. Baptize means "baptize" (Gk: baptizein = "immerse, dip in water"); it's done WITH water. Just like "shower" doesn't mean "water"--it means "having water fall all over you, for the purpose of cleaning your body". Is this seriously new to you?

Then the Eunuch could have said, 'here is water; what doth hinder me to be watered'???

That would be an odd, flippant way of putting it (a bit like calling the death of a loved one "turning into worm food"), but it wouldn't be inaccurate; just remember that the "watering" has a spiritual effect, in the context of Baptism. It's the normal means by which salvation is conveyed (cf. 1 Peter 3:21, etc.). Why else do you think the sight of water had anything to do with the eunuch's request for baptism?

I mean, if baptize means water...

Why do you say that? Do you also say that gas tank = gas, eating = food, and kiss = wife? That's just bizarre...

Or, 'here is baptize; what hinders me to be watered???

Are you feeling all right, FRiend?

Of course water doesn't mean baptize...

:) (*whew!*) You had me worried there, for a second! Okay... so... before this humorous comment, what were you intending to say?
625 posted on 04/30/2015 9:52:43 AM PDT by paladinan (Rule #1: There is a God. Rule #2: It isn't you.)
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To: paladinan
You-
Afterward, Jesus and His disciples went (in the VERY FIRST VERSE after the conversation with Nicodemus) and they BAPTIZED (with water, since that's the very meaning of the word--see Acts 8:36-38, etc.)... and we know that Jesus baptized both with water (see above) and with the Holy Spirit (see above). WATER AND SPIRIT.

Me-
Baptize means water???

You are the one who said water means baptize...And that is your proof that being born again includes baptism since the word water is in there...

Joh_3:5 Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God.

And now here you are back-peddling claiming water does not mean baptism...

You-
Er... no. Baptize means "baptize" (Gk: baptizein = "immerse, dip in water"); it's done WITH water. Just like "shower" doesn't mean "water"--it means "having water fall all over you, for the purpose of cleaning your body". Is this seriously new to you?

And being 'born' has nothing to do with baptism...'Born' is not baptism...

So now you clearly admit that there is no evidence of baptism in John 3:5...

And if scripture means anything to you at all, consider this:

Act 1:5 For John truly baptized with water; but ye shall be baptized with the Holy Ghost not many days hence.

What it DOES NOT say is that the Holy Ghost will baptize you with water...
In one instance we are baptized (immersed) into water...In the other instance we are baptized (immersed) into the Holy Ghost (no water)...

Every time it says baptize/baptism in the scripture is no indication that water is always present...

'Born again' is the result of being baptized into the Holy Ghost...

695 posted on 04/30/2015 2:57:46 PM PDT by Iscool
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