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To: CynicalBear

This is a common mis-conception. The human authors of Scripture were indeed true authors in the sense that they wrote what they wished to write. The Holy Spirit didn’t use them as some secretary, dictating to them what He wanted written.

“God breathed” indicates the true source of “inspiration” (God). It doesn’t necessarily mean that Scripture is “God’s Dictation”.


620 posted on 04/30/2015 8:57:40 AM PDT by FourtySeven (47)
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To: FourtySeven
>>“God breathed” indicates the true source of “inspiration” (God). It doesn’t necessarily mean that Scripture is “God’s Dictation”.<<

What kind of convoluted thinking is that?

"God breathed" NOT "man breathed". Psalm 68:11 The Lord gave the word: great was the company of those that published it.

Exodus 34:27 Then the LORD said to Moses, "Write down these words,

Exodus 17:14 Then the LORD said to Moses, "Write this on a scroll as something to be remembered

“To the angela of the church in Ephesus write: followed by dictation.

“To the angel of the church in Smyrna write:" followed by dictation.

“To the angel of the church in Pergamum write:" followed by dictation.

“To the angel of the church in Thyatira write:" followed by dictation.

624 posted on 04/30/2015 9:49:31 AM PDT by CynicalBear (For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus)
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To: FourtySeven; CynicalBear; Alex Murphy; bkaycee; blue-duncan; boatbums; caww; daniel1212; ...
This is a common mis-conception. The human authors of Scripture were indeed true authors in the sense that they wrote what they wished to write. The Holy Spirit didn’t use them as some secretary, dictating to them what He wanted written.

“God breathed” indicates the true source of “inspiration” (God). It doesn’t necessarily mean that Scripture is “God’s Dictation”.

And you know this how?

The the Holy Spirit Himself tell you how He inspired the authors of Scripture to write what they wrote?

Are you infallible in your understanding and interpretation of Scripture and how the Holy Spirit moves and works?

Where did you get your information from?

684 posted on 04/30/2015 2:09:21 PM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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To: FourtySeven; CynicalBear
Paul nor any of the writers of scripture were infallible. It is the Holy Spirit who is infallible and who's words the apostles and prophets wrote.

This is a common mis-conception...The Holy Spirit didn’t use them as some secretary, dictating to them what He wanted written.

I did not see CB saying SCripture was dictated, but Pope Leo XIII did:

...Sacred Scripture is not like other books. Dictated by the Holy Ghost, it contains things of the deepest importance, which in many instances are most difficult and obscure.

Not that other RC teaching does not contradict the idea that inspiration is dictation, as it does, while confusing inspiration with the Cath charism of infallibility is another error.

Writers of Holy Writ were inspired of God when writing, and thus their writings are infallible Truth, but that is not the RC charism of infallibility, which would promise such writers formulaic infallibility.

Under the latter, the pope does not speak under Divine inspiration when speaking an infallible statement, but is said to possess a gift of infallibility that will always prevent him from erring whenever He speaks universally in a certain manner on faith and morals.

This can only ensure he does not err, but which does not make God the author of the teaching as He is with Scripture, and if it is true (if it was) yet it lacks the power of the wholly inspired word of God.

For the word of God is quick, and powerful, and sharper than any twoedged sword, piercing even to the dividing asunder of soul and spirit, and of the joints and marrow, and is a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart. (Hebrews 4:12)

732 posted on 04/30/2015 7:22:43 PM PDT by daniel1212 (Come to the Lord Jesus as a contrite damned+destitute sinner, trust Him to save you, then live 4 Him)
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