[daniel1212]

But since nobody is infallible, how do you know that's really true?

Lets get to that, but first let is be established that inspiration is not to be confused with the novel and unScriptural premise of ensured perpetual magisterial infallibility as per Rome (unless you believe infallible decrees are inspired as Scripture is).

But since nobody is infallible, how do you know that's really true? How do you know the Apostle John really "explicitly wrote" it, anyway? How do you know there was an "Apostle John"? How do you "know" what "to know" means?

Thus your premise is that ensured perpetual magisterial infallibility is essential for the discernment of what is of God, correct?

But which premise invalidates the NT church, as it began with souls having rightly discerned both men and writings as being of God, and following an itinerant Preacher whom the historical magisterium/stewards of Scripture rejected, and whom the Messiah reproved them Scripture as being supreme, (Mk. 7:2-16) and established His Truth claims upon scriptural substantiation in word and in power, as did the early church as it began upon this basis. (Mt. 22:23-45; Lk. 24:27,44; Jn. 5:36,39; Acts 2:14-35; 4:33; 5:12; 15:6-21;17:2,11; 18:28; 28:23; Rm. 15:19; 2Cor. 12:12, etc.)

Thus under the Roman model your operate out of then you have nuked the church.

[Gamecock]

**Thus your premise is that ensured perpetual magisterial infallibility is essential for the discernment of what is of God, correct?**

And yet, right here on FR, we see Roman Catholics interpreting the Magisterium in multiple ways.

Which one of them is right or wrong? How are we to know?

[paladinan]

But which premise invalidates the NT church, as it began with souls having rightly discerned both men and writings as being of God, and following an itinerant Preacher whom the historical magisterium/stewards of Scripture rejected,

"Historical magisterium/stewards of Scripture"...?!?

What sort of contrived, shoe-horned-only-for-the-sake-of-smearing-the-word-'Magisterium' clap-trap is THAT?

Good grief, FRiend... are you seriously saying that, since the Sanhedrin was an organized authority, and the Catholic Church is an organized hierarchy, and the Sanhedrin were wrong, therefore the Catholic Church must be wrong? Wow...

"My dog has four legs. My cat has four legs. My dog loves car-rides; therefore, my cat must love car rides."

Look up the "fallacy of the undistributed middle", when you have a chance...