[metmom]

No... partly because the Church has never contradicted Herself in her core dogmas (i.e. things recognized as "de fide"--i.e. part of Divine Revelation), and partly because any Church authorities who contradict Church teaching are to be disobeyed in that respect.

OK. Back to this.

"Outside the Church there is no salvation"

True or not. Yes or no?

I know what I was taught growing up.

[paladinan]

"Outside the Church there is no salvation" True or not. Yes or no? I know what I was taught growing up.

True. "Extra Ecclesiam Nulla Salus" is a de fide article, and it's infallible; it teaches that everyone who is saved is saved by virtue of some connection--whether visible (as is the norm) or invisible (as is the case with baptism of desire, baptism of blood, invincible ignorance, etc.)--to the Catholic Church. At no time was it ever defined in the "absolute" sense of requiring full and explicit communion with the Catholic Church in order to avoid damnation; that would lead to absurd teachings (as some Evangelicals actually believe, BTW) such as the idea that those who die while innocently ignorant of the Gospel [e.g. missionaries not getting to them in time, perhaps] are damned.

So... where, exactly, do you say that the Church has changed this doctrine?