[paladinan]

"Outside the Church there is no salvation" True or not. Yes or no? I know what I was taught growing up.

True. "Extra Ecclesiam Nulla Salus" is a de fide article, and it's infallible; it teaches that everyone who is saved is saved by virtue of some connection--whether visible (as is the norm) or invisible (as is the case with baptism of desire, baptism of blood, invincible ignorance, etc.)--to the Catholic Church. At no time was it ever defined in the "absolute" sense of requiring full and explicit communion with the Catholic Church in order to avoid damnation; that would lead to absurd teachings (as some Evangelicals actually believe, BTW) such as the idea that those who die while innocently ignorant of the Gospel [e.g. missionaries not getting to them in time, perhaps] are damned.

So... where, exactly, do you say that the Church has changed this doctrine?

[metmom]

I don’t.

Other Catholics, however, disagree with you.