To: metmom
"Outside the Church there is no salvation" True or not. Yes or no? I know what I was taught growing up.
True. "Extra Ecclesiam Nulla Salus" is a de fide article, and it's infallible; it teaches that everyone who is saved is saved by virtue of some connection--whether visible (as is the norm) or invisible (as is the case with baptism of desire, baptism of blood, invincible ignorance, etc.)--to the Catholic Church. At no time was it ever defined in the "absolute" sense of requiring full and explicit communion with the Catholic Church in order to avoid damnation; that would lead to absurd teachings (as some Evangelicals actually believe, BTW) such as the idea that those who die while innocently ignorant of the Gospel [e.g. missionaries not getting to them in time, perhaps] are damned.
So... where, exactly, do you say that the Church has changed this doctrine?
1,060 posted on
05/04/2015 2:07:06 PM PDT by
paladinan
(Rule #1: There is a God. Rule #2: It isn't you.)
To: paladinan
I don’t.
Other Catholics, however, disagree with you.
1,079 posted on
05/04/2015 7:02:11 PM PDT by
metmom
(...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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