Posted on 04/22/2015 2:34:02 PM PDT by RnMomof7
Then why are we told to pick up our cross and follow Christ?
Jesus died for everyone’s sins, but we have a responsibility too.
What do you think it is?
Pick up your cross and follow Jesus. Why does the Bible tell us that?
One of the key ways to discern to whom Jesus addresses something (and He is addressing through the letters of Paul and the Gospels, etc) is to look at to whom He is speaking. The Mormons seem to stumble over the message sent from Jerusalem to the new gentile Christians, because the Church in Jerusalem did not put lots of Judaic restrictions on the new Christians. Judaizing seems to be a profitable endeavor even in our day.
Because we have inherited a sin nature from Adam and that old man must be crucified with Christ as we live a new life by the power of the indwelling Holy Spirit earnest of our inheritance.
No.
The Pharisees accused Jesus of being possessed by the devil.
I figure I’m keeping good company if we non-Catholics are being compared to the devil.
Our response to what He has done for us. Our suffering or lack thereof adds nothing to our salvation. He has done it all.
Also, I am not easily offended.
I left the church of the perpetually offended a long time ago.
So you can go out and murder someone and still go to heaven?
What a farce this is.
I know...the Catholics were the ones who pretty much gave it to us as we know it today.....THANKS CATHOLICS!!
You are Petros, and upon this rock I will build My CHURCH....still talking and still very much allive!!
refute the statement.
The farce is the accusation that people think that way.
Jesus paid our sin debt in full.
There is nothing left for us to do in regard to attaining salvation.
Yes, there is stuff to be done in being conformed to the likeness of Christ.
Learning to operate in the mind of Christ and becoming more like Him everyday is what demands our taking up our cross as we learn to say no to the flesh and walk in the Spirit, but that does NOT affect our salvation, which is sealed in heaven by the Holy Spirit.
And the accusation that Christians think they can do what they want shows an abysmal ignorance of the teaching of Scripture and how a born again, born from above Christian really thinks. The Holy Spirit living in someone would never think that way.
While sin does not cost the saved person their salvation, that does not by any means mean that they can or will get away with it. God disciplines those He loves and since we are legitimate children, we will be disciplined for the sin we commit, but we will not be disowned (lose our salvation)
Maybe, maybe not....but each person on Earth is not entitled to interpret scripture to suit their own needs which too many on this site seem to do...there have been some extremely bizarre interpretations of scripture posted here which make most people just scratch their heads and wonder what that person is thinking....OSAS is one of them.
I find Catholic intolerance just as loathsome as that of evangelicals. I am not judging anyone. I leave that to God. I follow the calling I have heard and I do not begrudge other Christians for following the calling they have heard. I am more than happy to explain Catholic doctrine to anyone who voluntarily asks to know it. I don’t feel an obligation to smear every other Christian denomination and point out why they are “wrong”. I ask the same of others. I will let God be the judge of that and may the chips fall where they may. Worship at you choose. Don’t condemn others for doing differently.
God's word is, of course the final statement on anything, and the Catholic church is the only source of proper interpretation of that word...there is no other, there never will be, and no, we are not entitled to do it ourselves....
The sad thing is that advocates of all the various Christian denominations are all honestly expressing a passionate belief and at their core are just trying to help others achieve what they believe to be true. So yes, I love them no matter how much Christian infighting they cause. It is a shame. God does not want us divided, he wants us to love one another. I live for a day when Christians of one denomination will respect the beliefs of those of another denomination, no matter how misguided you think they are. It is their path. I am not going to condemn their path or to judge them.
At mass I’ve said “I believe in one Holy Catholic and Apostolic Church”. That others believe in another Christian church than Catholicism does not conflict with the vow I say for my belief in one Holy Catholilc Church. That is my belief. I do not judge or condemn other Christians for not sharing that belief and I do not believe they are going to hell just because they are not Catholics. I do not believe they are cultists, but are good Christians.
All of us no doubt are missing something about Christianity that we should know or believe, and none of us is perfect or has the capacity of perfect knowledge. Let he who is without sin cast the first stone.
The church did not add them ... they were included in the Jewish translation of the bible into Greek that was used in the early church and by Jews until the rabbis removed them in 90 AD.
You are entitled to your own opinions, but not to make up your own facts.
I never said theological discussion displeases God the Father or Christ the Son. I said Christian infighting, judging, and condemning is what displeases them.
To state a disagreement in someone else’s doctrinal belief, even to defending ones own, is fine and dandy. It is when people from one denomination cast aspersion on the followers of other denominations, when Christian denominations are labelled “cults”, when people are told they are going to hell, when people are told they are wrong in their belief and must change to what other believe — all that Christian infighting can’t please the Lord God, or Christ his Son.
I find no fault in Christians who disagree with the Catholic Church and worship Christ in other denominations. It is only the fighting, attacking, insulting, judging and condemning that is wrong. It is one thing to disagree with the Catholic Church, then another thing to start these fights on FR that ALWAYS FOLLOW these attacks on the doctrine of opposing denominations.
I don’t understand why people do this here. They know that nobody on the forum will change their minds from their existing beliefs. We are all set. So all this doctrinal bashing accomplishes is some kind of egotistical satisfaction by the thread maker bashing others and putting them down, and more of the same as their friends back them up.
It is un-Christian.
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