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To: BlueDragon

Not worth further response.


943 posted on 04/24/2015 5:56:11 PM PDT by Grateful2God (Because no word shall be impossible with God. And Mary said: Behold the handmaid of the Lord...)
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To: Grateful2God; I want the USA back; NYer

Then why bother to say that? I think I know why...

All the superficial nicey-nicey and 'God be with you' sort of talk is just a shield to hold up while attempting to stifle discussion and give one grounds for ignoring anything which is said if such discussion turns into disagreement with 'Rome'.

Yet the fundamental flaw with the entire article, which I touched upon previously;

John 14 shows something else other than praying to anyone save for Our Father (who is in heaven). Yes, I know, the "Our Father" is not found expressed word-for-word in John 14. Yet it was a direct teaching of Christ which carries very much across the board, continuing the pattern of how we all must posture ourselves before the One God Almighty-All sufficient, El Shaddai. Once He is met with in the manner spoken of in John14 then it becomes clearer just who He is. (Deuteronomy 4:24 (Hebrews 12:29)

If yourself or any here would care to consider those things, taken up all together at once to consider all at once ---- then hopefully the differing conception of 'communion of the saints' which I've been driving at could at least be understood.

If one does not or cannot understand what I'm talking about, and then not even TRY to understand any other than their own viewpoints, then productive conversation about this issue will be difficult if not impossible.

In the meantime, take the dictatorial "better than though" sort of snootiness for a hike. Or at least set it aside upon some shelf long enough to understand what it is that is being said, instead of having anyone needing discuss things merely (and only) as your own co-religionists frame whatever issue is under discussion here.

You know, like speak towards an actual underlying issue instead of just a --- this side against some other side commentary while replies are attempted to be held hostage to "feelings" and Catholics own views of themselves and their Church ecclesiastical community?

Yet if it is insisted that it be either agreement with RCC views, or else if not all bow-and-scraping nicey-nicey when expressing objections to some theological aspect or another under discussion, what is that but an attempt to hold the manner of expression of dissenters hostage to some lopsided view of your own, and perhaps others regarding theological discussion?

What of the RCC having rhetorically made itself out to be God on earth? I noticed that was skipped over also.

That one place in the document entitled Lumum Gentium is not the only place where Romanists make those kind of noises, yet -- the Roman Catholic Church is most certainly not God.

Try to wrap your mind around that for just one moment...

One moment may be all it takes to begin to see the light.

948 posted on 04/25/2015 8:24:15 AM PDT by BlueDragon (...slicing through the bologna like Belushi at a Samurai Delicatessen...)
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