To: Elsie
"Even Esau...""Love" and "hate" are very poor translations of the underlying Hebrew words. "Love" is not an infatuation as we know it, but has more to do with recognizing the status of ones particular covenantal relationship with God and acting in loyal accord with the requirements of that relationship. Esau disdained his relationship and sold it for a bowl of soup. Similarly, "Hate" is the opposite--stating the lack of such a covenantal relationship. Jacob and his family maintained a covenantal relationship with Israel's God, Yahweh. Esau and his family do not have this relationship.
To: Eucharista
"Love" and "hate" are very poor translations of the underlying Hebrew words. "Love" is not an infatuation as we know it, but has more to do with recognizing the status of ones particular covenantal relationship with God and acting in loyal accord with the requirements of that relationship. Esau disdained his relationship and sold it for a bowl of soup. Similarly, "Hate" is the opposite--stating the lack of such a covenantal relationship. Jacob and his family maintained a covenantal relationship with Israel's God, Yahweh. Esau and his family do not have this relationship.
True, but that is not the only way love and hate are referenced in the Hebrew. You paint a colorless outline of a very rich subject.
To: Eucharista
"Love" and "hate" are very poor translations of the underlying Hebrew words. Then why hasn't ROME 'translated' them better?
Malachi 1:1-3 Douay-Rheims 1899 American Edition (DRA)
1 The burden of the word of the Lord to Israel by the hand of Malachias.
2 I have loved you, saith the Lord: and you have said: Wherein hast thou loved us? Was not Esau brother to Jacob, saith the Lord, and I have loved Jacob,
3 But have hated Esau? and I have made his mountains a wilderness, and given his inheritance to the dragons of the desert.
Romans 9:13 Douay-Rheims 1899 American Edition (DRA)
As it is written: Jacob I have loved, but Esau I have hated.
656 posted on
04/22/2015 4:59:32 AM PDT by
Elsie
(Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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