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To: Petrosius
We condemn WORSHIPPING Mary, not PRAYING to her. Why is this so hard to understand?

Praying to something is worshiping...Your religion can't make up its own definition for prayer, or worship...

210 posted on 04/20/2015 10:01:26 PM PDT by Iscool
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To: Iscool
Praying to something is worshiping...Your religion can't make up its own definition for prayer, or worship...

Nor can you ignore other valid definitions. From Merriam-Webster.com:

pray

verb \ˈprā\

: to speak to God especially in order to give thanks or to ask for something

: to hope or wish very much for something to happen

: to seriously ask (someone) to do something

Full Definition of PRAY

transitive verb

1 : entreat, implore —often used as a function word in introducing a question, request, or plea

2 : to get or bring by praying

intransitive verb

1 : to make a request in a humble manner

2 : to address God or a god with adoration, confession, supplication, or thanksgiving

Examples of PRAY

There's little else to do now but hope and pray.

The minister said, “Let us pray.”

He prayed that they would have the strength to go on.

He prayed that he would find a parking spot.

Origin of PRAY
Middle English, from Anglo-French prier, praer, preier, from Latin precari, from prec-, prex request, prayer; akin to Old High German frāga question, frāgēn to ask, Sanskrit pṛcchati he asks

First Known Use: 13th century

Related to PRAY
Synonyms
appeal (to), beseech, besiege, conjure, entreat, impetrate, implore, importune, petition, plead (to), beg, solicit, supplicate
When Catholics use "prayer" in reference to the saints they are using it in the sense of the intransitive definition #1: "to make a request in a humble manner." And the request is that they pray to God for us. To insist that it means "worship" when this is not the intention of the speaker is to bear false witness. I would expect better from one who claims to be a Christian.
211 posted on 04/20/2015 10:41:43 PM PDT by Petrosius
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To: Iscool; Petrosius
Praying to something is worshiping...Your religion can't make up its own definition for prayer, or worship...

This hilarious, especially given coming from you.

215 posted on 04/21/2015 2:50:06 AM PDT by verga (I might as well be playing chess with pigeons,.)
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To: Iscool
Your religion can't make up its own definition for prayer, or worship...

Says WHO!?


 


'When I use a word,' Humpty Dumpty said, in a rather scornful tone,
' it means just what I choose it to mean, neither more nor less.'

'The question is,' said Alice, 'whether you can make words mean so many different things.'

'The question is,' said Humpty Dumpty, 'which is to be master - that's all.'  


255 posted on 04/21/2015 6:15:49 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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