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To: caww; MamaB; CynicalBear
The current thread and my experience with you clearly shows you have no interest in honest discussions. You and your cohorts pester Catholics to show where the Church gets Her authority. We show with Biblical citations that there is evidence of this authority being given Her by Christ Himself. Open to interpretation? Fine. Answered? Yes.

After we show you where the Church gets Her authority you then come back to note that the titles given to the referenced discussions don't mention Christ, just His Church. If you had actually read the links, you would see that Christ is mentioned as the source of the Church's authority throughout the arguments.

There is nothing to be gained in engaging you in conversation. You simply want to snipe and trap.

49 posted on 04/15/2015 5:12:08 PM PDT by pgyanke (Republicans get in trouble when not living up to their principles. Democrats... when they do.)
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To: pgyanke
We show with Biblical citations that there is evidence of this authority being given Her by Christ Himself.

Only one small problem:

There was no HER to give authority to.

You guys sound like the Russians of old who claimed, retroactively, that all good inventions were made by Russians.

The only problem was...

History books.

54 posted on 04/15/2015 7:49:45 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: pgyanke; CynicalBear
Ok...so where's your response that the links you gave show otherwise then what I stated? There was no mention of Jesus Christ....so prove me wrong.

Instead you ranted on and on....as is typical to avoid what your links have clearly revealed which I as clearly stated. .... Further you added in this post that it's about “ this authority given Her by Christ Himself”.....once again showing that it's not about the Centrality of Jesus Christ, as Head of the body of believers in the catholic church, but “Something Else” has the authority Only HE alone has...

Jesus does not share His headship ...it is His and His alone. ALL authority is given TO HIM above all others.

Matthew 28:18 “All AUTHORITY is given unto me in heaven and earth” Philippians 2:10 ....“that at the name of Jesus every knee should bow,.. in *heaven and on earth and under the earth*... and every tongue confess that Jesus Christ is Lord.”

57 posted on 04/15/2015 10:35:29 PM PDT by caww
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To: pgyanke; caww; MamaB; CynicalBear

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>> “ We show with Biblical citations that there is evidence of this authority being given Her by Christ Himself.” <<

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Abominable falsehood!

Yeshua has no church! He has only the assembly that his Father gave him, which dates back to Abraham.

Matthew 16:18 speaks not of a ‘church’ but of that assembly that he would expand on the professed faith of his apostles.

Catholicism is built upon the Nicolaitanism for which Yeshua declared his hatred.
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125 posted on 04/18/2015 8:15:10 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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