[newgeezer]

Those are two separate things. Two separate topics.

Of course they are.

But, they're both extra-biblical beliefs about Mary, the mother of Jesus. And, as I said, there must be more where those came from.

And don’t forget that a stopped clock can be right twice a day.

Okay but, how does that apply here; who or what is the stopped clock here and, where is it correct?

[Elsie]

But, they're both extra-biblical beliefs about Mary, the mother of Jesus. And, as I said, there must be more where those came from.

Your ideas are TOAST!