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Living together or gay marriage
vanity | 04/01/2015 | ealgeone

Posted on 04/01/2015 6:08:55 PM PDT by ealgeone

For discussion purposes....

Pretend you own a bakery, or pizza place, et. The area in which you work is also one in which you live close by. You know your customers. You are a Christian.

A young man and woman are living together in the apartment above yours. You see them a couple of times a week and even say hello.

They come into your business and want to order a cake with the following inscription:

TWO YEARS TOGETHER

You know they're not married.

Do you bake the cake?

What say you Fellow Freepers


TOPICS: Religion & Culture; Religion & Politics
KEYWORDS: gay; homosexualagenda; livingtogether; marriage
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1 posted on 04/01/2015 6:08:55 PM PDT by ealgeone
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To: ealgeone

Bake and do you job.


2 posted on 04/01/2015 6:10:42 PM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks ("If he were working for the other side, what would he be doing differently ?")
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To: ealgeone

I don’t care what the circumstances are. The baker is either a free person or not a free person. None of my business what the decision is either way.


3 posted on 04/01/2015 6:16:03 PM PDT by SampleMan (Feral Humans are the refuse of socialism.)
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To: ealgeone

Gosh. What a nice piece of sophistry.

The correct question would be, “Would you bake them a wedding cake?”

Sure. They’re getting married. See. This is how analogies work.

The homosexuals want WEDDING CAKES and WEDDING PHOTOS.

Try to stay up with the conversation.


4 posted on 04/01/2015 6:16:46 PM PDT by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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To: ealgeone

Does your religious conscience matter?


5 posted on 04/01/2015 6:17:22 PM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously-you won't live through it anyway-Enjoy Yourself ala Louis Prima)
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To: ealgeone

So?

I think you need a better straw man. This one does not fly.


6 posted on 04/01/2015 6:18:04 PM PDT by Pikachu_Dad (Impeach Sen Quinn)
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To: blueunicorn6
Gosh. What a nice piece of sophistry. The correct question would be, “Would you bake them a wedding cake?” Sure. They’re getting married. See. This is how analogies work. The homosexuals want WEDDING CAKES and WEDDING PHOTOS. Try to stay up with the conversation.

You presume they're getting married....they're just celebrating two years of living together.

Why do you think I posted the topic....because of the conversation.

7 posted on 04/01/2015 6:18:47 PM PDT by ealgeone
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The problem was the homosexuals wanted the baker to bake a wedding cake. The Christian baker did not want to participate in an unholy marriage ceremony so refused. The homosexuals could have just went to a different bakery. End of problem. Instead, they sued and a corrupt judge bankrupted the baker. The judge should be impeached and removed for his tyranny.
8 posted on 04/01/2015 6:19:24 PM PDT by Jim Robinson (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God!!)
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To: Pikachu_Dad
No straw man intended.

That's a real life occurrence in the USA today.

9 posted on 04/01/2015 6:20:11 PM PDT by ealgeone
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To: ealgeone

It isn’t a wedding cake or wedding pizza if that is what you are trying to get at.

You think that this is the kind of discussion that is interesting at FR?


10 posted on 04/01/2015 6:22:38 PM PDT by ansel12 (Palin--Mr President, the only thing that stops a bad guy with a nuke is a good guy with a nuke.)
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To: Jim Robinson
Hey Jim....wow....rare to see you on the threads.

Here's my question....is living together outside of marriage with no intention of marriage any worse of a sin than being homosexual and wanting to get married?

Trust me....I'm not in the LGBT camp by any stretch nor am I advocating (no pun) for their position.

11 posted on 04/01/2015 6:23:23 PM PDT by ealgeone
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To: ealgeone

That is not the problem that ignited this firestorm.


12 posted on 04/01/2015 6:24:06 PM PDT by Jim Robinson (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God!!)
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To: ansel12
You think that this is the kind of discussion that is interesting at FR?

You thought it enough so to reply.

13 posted on 04/01/2015 6:26:08 PM PDT by ealgeone
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To: ealgeone

I stopped playing ‘pretend’ at about age six, when I received my own rifle for deer season.


14 posted on 04/01/2015 6:26:42 PM PDT by GreyHoundSailor
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To: Jim Robinson
That is not the problem that ignited this firestorm.

I agree, but from a Christian perspective....is living together any worse of a sin than homosexuality?

15 posted on 04/01/2015 6:27:03 PM PDT by ealgeone
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Thanks blueunicorn6, you beat me to it. The issue isn't putting an anniversary phrase on a cake.
16 posted on 04/01/2015 6:27:19 PM PDT by FreedomOfExpression
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To: SampleMan

Perfect answer.

But others on this forum desperately want to control people and will tell the baker to do his “job”.

Even if they have to use the force of government.


17 posted on 04/01/2015 6:28:19 PM PDT by wbarmy (I chose to be a sheepdog once I saw what happens to the sheep.)
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To: ealgeone

If I liked them, I’d bake them a good cake. If they were just tolerable, I would have to think about it. Both options apply with respect to my having strong views on the religious context of marriage. It’s a matter of freedom as much as it is my relious views. And yes, I believe I should have the right to refuse service to anyone regardless of color, race, sex, national origin, or sexual orientation. That’s the problem.


18 posted on 04/01/2015 6:28:49 PM PDT by yetidog
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To: ealgeone

The difference I see is that this cake could lead to marriage, a sacramental union between a man and a woman. JimRob nailed it, a same sex “marriage” is an unholy union in the eyes of God.


19 posted on 04/01/2015 6:30:47 PM PDT by Night Hides Not (Remember the Alamo! Remember Goliad! Remember Mississippi!)
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To: ealgeone

Far be it from me to answer for anyone else but the sin of heterosexual cohabitation can be regularized by marriage, the sin of homosexuality cannot be regularized by anything other than its cessation.


20 posted on 04/01/2015 6:31:22 PM PDT by Legatus (I think, therefore you're out of your mind)
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