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To: Laissez-faire capitalist
There is no proof that Jesus...(was) resurrected

Try reading Josh McDowell's "Evidence That Demands A Verdict"

He leaves out Mary though.

51 posted on 03/28/2015 1:08:40 PM PDT by Boiler Plate ("Why be difficult, when with just a little more work, you can be impossible" Mom)
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To: Boiler Plate
Try reading Josh McDowell's "Evidence That Demands A Verdict"

I also read "More Evidence the Demands a Verdict" He set out to disprove Biblical Christianity. Look what happened to him.

57 posted on 03/28/2015 1:39:28 PM PDT by Mark17 (Beyond the sunset, O blissful morning, when with our Savior, Heaven is begun. Earth's toiling ended)
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To: Boiler Plate; Laissez-faire capitalist

Try reading Josh McDowell’s “Evidence That Demands A Verdict”


Stroeble’s “The Case for Christ” is good, too.


95 posted on 03/28/2015 4:01:22 PM PDT by Rides_A_Red_Horse (Why do you need a fire extinguisher when you can call the fire department?)
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To: Boiler Plate

I have read a lot of that book, but I did concentrate on other sections a little more than the one that I will talk about here:

If I remember correctly McDowell laid out the counter arguments that Jesus did not rise from the dead as being the following:

The coolness of the tomb revived Jesus, the women went back to the wrong tomb, the body was stolen and on and on. But knocking down arguments against something is not the same as arguing for something - as the onus of proof is always upon those who believe something to prove it.

I realize there is no empirical proof that Jesus rose but I can still believe by faith that He did.

The scriptures stating that Jesus Christ healed a man near the pool of Siloam and archaeologists finding this pool does not mean that Jesus actually healed someone near there anymore than archaeologists finding the location where the Buddha’s disciples wrote that he performed miracles is proof that the Buddha actually performed miracles there.


120 posted on 03/29/2015 12:35:20 PM PDT by Laissez-faire capitalist
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To: Boiler Plate
He leaves out Mary though.

Then he's a heretic by definition!


LOT's of people KNOW how important MARY is!


 
 
 
Bernadine: …all gifts, all virtues, and all graces are dispensed by the hands of Mary to whomsoever, when, and as she pleases. O Lady, since thou art the dispenser of all graces, and since the grace of salvation can ONLY come through thy hands, OUR SALVATION DEPENDS ON THEE.

Bonaventure: …the gates of heaven will open to all who confide in the protection of Mary. Blessed are they who know thee, O Mother of God, for the knowledge of THEE is the high road to everlasting life, and the publication of thy virtues is the way of ETERNAL SALVATION . Give ear, O ye nations; and all you who desire heaven , serve, honor Mary, and certainly you will find ETERNAL LIFE.

Ephem: …devotion to the divine Mother…is the unlocking of the heavenly Jerusalem.

Blosius: To the, O Lady, are committed the KEYS and the treasures of the kingdom of Heaven.

Ambrose: …constantly pray ‘Open to us, O Mary, the gates of paradise, since thou hast its KEYS.

Fulgetius: …by Mary God descended from Heaven into the world, that by HER man might ascend from earth to Heaven.

Athanasius: …And, thou, O Lady, wast filled with grace, that thou mightiest be the way of our SALVATION and the means of ascent to the heavenly Kingdom.

Richard of Laurence: Mary, in fine, is the mistress of heaven; for there she commands as she wills, and ADMITS whom she wills.

Guerric: …he who serves Mary and for whom she intercedes, is as CERTAIN of heaven as if he were already there…and those who DO NOT serve Mary will NOT BE SAVED.

Anselm: It suffices, O Lady, that thou willest it, and our SALVATION is certain.

Antoninus: …souls protected by Mary, and on which she casts her eyes, are NECESSARILY JUSTIFIED AND SAVED.

142 posted on 03/29/2015 3:45:32 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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