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To: Kandy Atz

So you believe that the Bible is true and/or inspired of God? I do as well, but I base it on faith.

How do you know the Bible is true or the scripture you gave is true? Because that scripture says what it says or other scriptures say the Bible is true? How then do you know that the scriptures are true or that the scripture you gave is true? Because it is in the Bible?

If you said yes to the last part, that is basing your argument on circular reasoning, which ultimately proves nothing.


124 posted on 03/29/2015 12:44:25 PM PDT by Laissez-faire capitalist
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist

You are attempting to understand with your reasoning something that is spiritually discerned. The answer to your question is REVELATION versus INFORMATION, or the spiritual versus the natural man.

I could read hundreds of religious books, even Christian books (and I have), and receive little spiritual benefit. God’s Word is different, its spiritual milk full of revelation and wisdom that is fuel for growth. Its alive and still speaking to each and every generation with ears to hear.

What some label as faith is more likely mental assent. Faith must be based ON something. It is in your spirit, not your head (or senses). As Paul writes in Hebrews 11.

Hebrews 11:1 (AMP)
1 NOW FAITH is the assurance (the confirmation, the title deed) of the things [we] hope for, being the proof of things [we] do not see and the conviction of their reality [faith perceiving as real fact what is not revealed to the senses].

He then gives you example after example of men who heard, believed, and acted on God’s Word. Not just Logos, but the Rhema. Faith comes from hearing the Word and receiving the revelation from that same Word. (Romans 10:17)

I don’t think the Bible is the Word of God. I am not wishing, hoping, or exercising “blind faith” that His Word is Truth. I KNOW its Truth. I KNOW that God cannot lie and His Word will never fail. I know that every word, verse, passage, is loaded with revelation and wisdom, and even if I read it 50 times without revelation, at the perfect moment, the Holy Spirit will reveal it to my spirit.


136 posted on 03/29/2015 1:53:18 PM PDT by Kandy Atz ("Were we directed from Washington when to sow and when to reap, we should soon want for bread.")
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