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Why Rome Can Only Appreciate, Rather than Prove the Immaculate Conception
Fallibility ^ | May 1, 2013 | Michael Taylor

Posted on 03/26/2015 11:36:04 AM PDT by RnMomof7

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To: SpirituTuo

It is certainly your choice to believe as you wish, but if the priest said what he said, he was in error.


It is my understanding that the priest just read the scripture and since he did not dispute it was taken for agreeing that Mary had other Children.

Just sounds like an honest priest to me and does not mean that he believed Mary had other children but only that Jesus had brothers and sisters, not the same thing.


61 posted on 03/26/2015 3:42:21 PM PDT by ravenwolf (s letters scripture.)
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To: ravenwolf; Elsie; CynicalBear; metmom
It makes more sense they were step brothers since they were not Mary`s Children.

Sorry, but I believe they were Mary's children. People may feel free to believe whatever they like, but that is what I believe. I guess we will all know for sure, when Gabriel blows his horn, won't we?

62 posted on 03/26/2015 4:09:17 PM PDT by Mark17 (Beyond the sunset, O blissful morning, when with our Savior, Heaven is begun. Earth's toiling ended)
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To: paladinan; CynicalBear
They will not believe the greek because they choose not to. To them grace is like gasoline..you either have a "full" tank or 1/2 tank or you are running on fumes..

So you run to the grace station for a fill up..

Pathetic but true.. some like daily fill ups..to keep the tank full some weekly refills and the majority run on fumes

1:30 καὶ εἶπεν ὁ ἄγγελος αὐτῇ Μὴ φοβοῦ Μαριάμ εὗρες γὰρ χάριν παρὰ τῷ θεῷ

1:30  καὶ εἶπεν ἄγγελος αὐτῇ Μὴ φοβοῦ Μαριάμ εὗρες γὰρ χάριν παρὰ τῷ θεῷ

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English (KJV)   [?] Strong's Root Form (Greek) Parsing
 

And

 

g2532   

καί kai

 

the angel

g32   

ἄγγελος aggelos

 

said

 

g2036   

εἶπον eipon

unto her,

g846   

αὐτός autos

 

Fear

 

g5399   

φοβέω phobeō

not,

 

g3361   

μή

 

Mary:

 

g3137   

Μαρία Maria

 

for

 

g1063   

γάρ gar

 

thou hast found

g2147   

εὑρίσκω heuriskō

favour

 

g5485   

χάρις charis

 

with

 

g3844   

παρά para

 

God.

 

g2316   

θεός theos

 

1:30  καὶ εἶπεν ἄγγελος αὐτῇ μὴ φοβοῦ Μαριάμ εὗρες γὰρ χάριν παρὰ τῷ θεῷ

Morphological GNT


63 posted on 03/26/2015 4:33:07 PM PDT by RnMomof7
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Gill’s Exposition of the Entire Bible

And the angel came in unto her,.... Into her house, and into the room where she was:

and said, hail; all health, happiness, and prosperity attend thee; Matthew 28:9.

thou art highly favoured; or graciously accepted, or hast obtained grace; not referring to electing, redeeming; justifying, pardoning, adopting, and sanctifying grace, which she had in common with other saints; but to that special and particular favour, in being chosen and singled out from all other women, to be the mother of the Messiah:

the Lord is with thee; so the angel to Gideon, Judges 6:12 or “be with thee”, an usual form of salutation among the Jews; Ruth 2:4.

thou art blessed among women; and will be pronounced so by other women, as she was by Elisabeth, Luke 1:42 and by another woman, Luke 11:27.


64 posted on 03/26/2015 4:35:53 PM PDT by RnMomof7
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To: Sasparilla
It is all about faith in something much bigger than yourself.

The church ...foolish

65 posted on 03/26/2015 4:48:25 PM PDT by RnMomof7
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To: ex-snook
I believe Jesus was Mary’s only child. Jesus went to Jerusalem and stayed there until Mary and Joseph returned and hear him speaking. Jesus returned with them and was subject to them. No one else is mentioned. Mary is at the Cross. No other family mentioned. It is a fiction to now read into the life of Jesus that he had sibling. That is what I believe. Others won’t convince me otherwise.

Scripture speaks of the other children, the siblings of Jesus . Reading the bible clears up questions like this

66 posted on 03/26/2015 4:51:27 PM PDT by RnMomof7
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To: WVKayaker
Pray for us, O Holy Mother of God, now and at the hour of our death. Amen.
67 posted on 03/26/2015 4:52:44 PM PDT by jobim
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To: RnMomof7; Salvation

“The church, foolish.” Thats your “belief, and thats fine. You know what mine is and disagree. Thats OK too. You can always go to a bar and contemplate the bubbles in your beer instead.


68 posted on 03/26/2015 4:57:29 PM PDT by Sasparilla (If you want peace, prepare for war.)
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To: ravenwolf

Would it be honest for a pharmacist to give you a bottle of pills with no instructions? Pretty dangerous actually. The pills might do you great good, but if you take too many, not enough, at the wrong time, without food, or take it with an antagonist, it may be downright deadly.

For a priest to not teach what is prescribed by the Church, especially dogmatic teachings, is at best, negligent.

Any person may think He had literal brothers and sisters, but that is not the teaching of the Church.


69 posted on 03/26/2015 5:08:08 PM PDT by SpirituTuo
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To: SpirituTuo

One last thing, this and any other thread on Catholic dogma isn’t presenting a single new argument.

Instead, it is a trotting out of long since discredited arguments, misconceptions, and factual errors.

Does anybody think that the oldest organization in the world can be sustained if built on error? 2000 years is a long time for arguments to be made, studied, debated, and resolved.

Oh, and another thing, the Catholic Church and its human leader are recognized globally. The authority of the Church is well-known. Ask just about anybody who the head of the Church is, and the will say the Pope. Ask where he lives, they will say Rome (because they may not understand Vatican City).

The Catholic Church is one, holy, catholic and apostolic. It has been that way since founded by Jesus Himself. Argue all you wish, make any number of claims, but in the end, the fullness of Christian faith is held and taught by the Catholic Church.


70 posted on 03/26/2015 5:25:01 PM PDT by SpirituTuo
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To: Trapped Behind Enemy Lines

I am a loyal and faithful Catholic who practices my faith.

Dude, you don’t even know your faith. Typical of so many salad bar Catholics today, they don’t know their faith yet they get on some website and bad-mouth it.


71 posted on 03/26/2015 6:05:24 PM PDT by Cap'n Crunch
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To: jobim; Elsie; Mark17

Pray for us, O Holy Mother of God, now and at the hour of our death. Amen.
......

It’s sad that most of those members of the Roman Catholic cult insist beseeching dead people to take care of them. It is inconsistent with Scripture, as they are repeatedly instructed, along with the appropriate references.

They must wear some heavy duty blinders.


72 posted on 03/26/2015 6:40:07 PM PDT by WVKayaker (Impeachment is the Constitution's answer for a derelict, incompetent president! -Sarah Palin 7/26/14)
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To: SpirituTuo

Any person may think He had literal brothers and sisters, but that is not the teaching of the Church.


That is why I do not belong to a Church as I think the Bible is what should be taught.

I see no place in the scripture which even hints that Mary had other children so I do not see any point in acting like it does by denying it unless some one asks.

It was common then and now to call step brothers :brothers.


73 posted on 03/26/2015 7:47:43 PM PDT by ravenwolf (s letters scripture.)
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To: Mark17

I guess we will all know for sure, when Gabriel blows his horn, won’t we?


That is for sure.


74 posted on 03/26/2015 8:03:03 PM PDT by ravenwolf (s letters scripture.)
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To: ravenwolf; SpirituTuo
I see no place in the scripture which even hints that Mary had other children...

Hahahahahahaaaaaa!

You don't belong to a church? Scripture tells us to "forsake not the assembling of yourselves..."!

I see no place in the scripture which even hints that Mary DID NOT other children, and though twisting and turning those beloved Bible verses, you can (try to) make the case for anything! Case in point is the topic of this thread!

Mary and Joseph had relations after Jesus was born, because Scripture tells us "he knew her not until..."! . Scripture tells us that! Mary was not sterile, and it is not unusual to have large families. After all, when returning from one trip, they did not realize Jesus had stayed back and was TEACHING in the Synagogue. How can you lose a child of 12 years old?

It's simple. There were probably lots of THEIR other children, and a 12 yr old was almost a man. Mary likely had her hands full with Jesus' younger siblings.

But, specifically, we see NOTHING in Scripture that gives credence to the assumption of the RCC cult about her being without sin and childless, except for Jesus. We see NOTHING in Scripture that would lend itself to all of the Mariology we see evident in the modern RCC cult, nor in the historical record of Christianity.

...The view that these brothers were the cousins of Jesus on Joseph's side is based on pure conjecture. That they were cousins on Mary's side is based on the unproved identity of "Mary, the wife of Cleophus" with the sister of Mary (John 19:25; Mark 15:40), and on the unproved identity of "Clopas" with Alphaeus (Mark 3:18).

Jesus' siblings are mentioned as accompanying Jesus and his mother to Capernaum after the marriage at Cana (John 2:12). Later Mary and these brothers are recorded as seeking an audience with Jesus (Matthew 12:46-50; Mark 3:31-35; Luke 8:19-21). Toward the end of Jesus' ministry, His brethren are mentioned as urging Jesus to prove His Messiahship, which they themselves doubted (John 7:3-5). That they were later converted is clear, for they are described in Acts as uniting with the disciples and others in "prayer and supplication" prior to Pentecost (Acts 1:13-14). Paul implies that they were all married (1 Corinthians 9:5).

Many commentators hold that the author of the epistle of Jude, who identifies himself as the "brother of James," was one of these brothers (Jude 1). It is also generally believed that the leader of the church at Jerusalem was James, the Lord's brother (see Acts 12:17; 15:13). This seems to be confirmed by Paul's reference to his visit to Jerusalem, in which he states that he saw only Peter, and "James, the Lord's brother" (Galatians 1:18-19). -BibleInfo.com

75 posted on 03/26/2015 8:42:49 PM PDT by WVKayaker (Impeachment is the Constitution's answer for a derelict, incompetent president! -Sarah Palin 7/26/14)
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To: Trapped Behind Enemy Lines
I am a loyal and faithful Catholic who practices my faith. (No need to paste in the remainder..)

May I be allowed to comment to you? (I'm sure others will reply both to you and to me, but I reply to you based on this post.)

I have a partner in a ministry who just happens to be Roman Catholic. After over 10 years of this association (and many conversations) I am firmly convinced that I have more in common with my RC partner than I do with many protestants considering that a significant percentage of main line denominations are sprinting to Gomorrah and more.

Theologically, why is it necessary for Jesus, God the Son and Son of God to have been born of a virgin sans contribution of human semen? The answer entails another question - through whom was the sin of Adam passed? Answer - the male. Anyone born of normal human sexual relations was born in sin, call it sin nature, original sin, or whatever theological term you want. In the garden, man did not become fallen until Adam (who was the covenant carrier) ate the fruit..

When Adam broke the covenant, all his seed 'died'. (Remember that the covenant is passed father to son so with Adam's fall, he passed on that covenant to all his seed.) Thus, if Jesus was conceived in normal fashion He too would have been a sinner. It was necessary for a virgin birth bypassing the human male seed to produce a non-sin-stained child. It was not necessary for Mary to have been conceived without original sin to enable her to bring forth her Son born without the sin-curse. Mary was not the covenant-carrier..

Second point.. In the lineage of kingship, the right to the throne passes to the kings first born. We see in Matthew's genealogy that Jesus through his earthly father Joseph (from whom he would have inherited any birthright to the throne of David - mothers do not pass on birthrights) was by virtue of 'father' Joseph in the direct line of the kings of Judah. For Jesus to be the rightful heir to the throne He would of necessity need to be Joseph's first-born, not Mary's first born since the kingly decent passes from the male. Short conclusion, Joseph could not have had previous sons or Jesus would have had no claim to the throne. (Joseph could have had daughters from a previous marriage, but once he had a son, those daughters, if any, were no longer throne contenders.)

There is a slight catch to that lineage, for if Jesus were a seed son of Joseph, even being the first born, He could not have ascended the throne of David. (It has to do with Jeremiah and King Jehoiachin (Jeconiah) - compare Jeremiah 22:30 and Matthew 1:12 and you will see why). There is a reason why Matthew included Jeconiah in the genealogy though because it's important.

For Jesus to be rightful king of Judah and also be Messiah he had to be a son of David in direct kingly descent and also a son of David apart from Jeconiah's line. That's why Luke's genealogy is important in that it establishes the Davidic descent of Jesus from David through Mary while the virgin birth assures that the Child was born without the Adamic sin curse or the curse on Jeconiah. Thus Jesus has both genealogical claim to the throne as Joseph's 'son' and also has right of both Kingship and Messiah-ship as a descendant of David not touched by the curse on Jeconiah.

It is unfortunate that ofer the centuries since themanger in Bethlehem a whole lot of stuff with no basis in Scripture has been brought into the discussion and transmogrified into dogma. It is true that the early church did call Mary 'Mother of God'. This seems to have first surfaced in refutation of the heresy of Arius (which is still propagated by certain door-knockers who come around with their small g god, their torture stake, a vaporous resurrection and want to sell you some kind of tower). From there it expanded until today we see that Mary has become god - in some peoples estimation...

I know you were not addressing me in your original post so I trust I haven't offended you by butting in. Now I'll butt out and catch up on the rest of the thread.. ;-)

76 posted on 03/26/2015 9:18:10 PM PDT by NoCmpromiz (John 14:6 is a non-pluralistic comment.)
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To: paladinan
Listen to the premise behind your statement: "if it isn't in the Bible, it can't be true or worthy of belief"... which is an unbiblical idea, since the Bible doesn't teach "sola Scriptura" ANYWHERE.

The phrase 'sola scriptura' is not found in the Bible. But then neither is the word 'Trinity'. Both concepts are however clearly taught. Should anyone wish to say the Trinity is unbiblical, that is a discussion for another time..

In the case of 'sola scriptura' it is demonstrable from both Holy Writ AND church tradition that the italicized statement is in error... It seems that some have need to familiarize themselves with the Bereans. Recorded in the Bible (and thus the inspired, inerrant Word of God) and since it is the Book of the Acts of the Apostles, it is also Church Tradition (held by some to be of equal weight with Scripture), this sure seems to indicate that to at least the Bereans, even if not to the Church now, it being in the Bible WAS important.

For your convenience here is the passage with the applicable part highlighted: "Now these were more noble than those in Thessalonica, who received the word with all eagerness, daily searching the scriptures, whether these things were so." (Douay)

It is interesting that I see the use of the term 'unBiblical' to denigrate something that clearly IS taught in Holy writ in a screed defending teachings that are in actuality unBiblical...

Comments above reflect the author's personal opinion based on the references stated. Your mileage may vary.

77 posted on 03/26/2015 9:56:20 PM PDT by NoCmpromiz (John 14:6 is a non-pluralistic comment.)
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To: WVKayaker

His brethren are mentioned as urging Jesus to prove His Messiahship, which they themselves doubted (John 7:3-5).


Which indicates they were older than Jesus.

Many commentators hold that the author of the epistle of Jude, who identifies himself as the “brother of James,” was one of these brothers (Jude 1).


If he was a brother to Jesus why would``nt he say so?

We are just arguing about assumptions on both sides, but my main one is that if the ones called the brothers and sisters were Mary`s Children Jesus would not have appointed John to care for Mary.

Hahahahahahaaaaaa!
You don’t belong to a church? Scripture tells us to “forsake not the assembling of yourselves...”!


You should read what the early Christians did to belong to the Church, they sold what they had and laid it at the apostles feet didn’t they? did you do that? Hahahahahahaaaaaa.


78 posted on 03/26/2015 11:19:52 PM PDT by ravenwolf (s letters scripture.)
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To: ravenwolf; Elsie
they sold what they had and laid it at the apostles feet didn’t they? did you do that? Hahahahahahaaaaaa.

Actually, yes, I did something similar to that! In 1976, I sold my house, and most of our possessions, and moved my wife and two young children to Lima, NY, where I attended Elim Bible Institute (college). It was my intention to go into the mission field in Brazil. Some things happened which changed that, but in the end, my walk with God was strengthened.

But, unlike Ananias and Sapphire, I didn't tell everybody a lie. Since those days, God blessed me in astounding ways. I was able to make a great living (higher income than most), and have established two schools and a hospital in the African (Muslim) country of Burkina Faso. They were furnished with CHRISTIAN materials and many found Christ as a result of being part of that. It is now an area where the radical Muzzies (ISIS) are expanding, and I fear for those people. I pray for them (without ceasing, thanks to His Holy Spirit indwelling me!).

But, back to the larger question, it appears your backing goes to the RCC cult's imagined findings within Scripture.

Do you also have Urim and Thummin in your house? Joe Smith would love to meet you (but, oh yeah, he's dead, too!)

Hahahahahaaaaa! I smell a troll! Have a nice day. I don't need to comment further to you.


79 posted on 03/26/2015 11:48:28 PM PDT by WVKayaker (Impeachment is the Constitution's answer for a derelict, incompetent president! -Sarah Palin 7/26/14)
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To: NoCmpromiz
In the case of 'sola scriptura' it is demonstrable from both Holy Writ AND church tradition that the italicized statement is in error...

I've asked, countless times, for Catholics to post all of the stuff in the BIBLE that applies to TRADITION; after I've posted what will follow here.

They never seem to get around to it...




Oh well...



NIV Matthew 2:5
"In Bethlehem in Judea," they replied, "for this is what the prophet has written:

NIV Matthew 4:1-11
1. Then Jesus was led by the Spirit into the desert to be tempted by the devil.
2. After fasting forty days and forty nights, he was hungry.
3. The tempter came to him and said, "If you are the Son of God, tell these stones to become bread."
4. Jesus answered, "It is written: `Man does not live on bread alone, but on every word that comes from the mouth of God.' "
5. Then the devil took him to the holy city and had him stand on the highest point of the temple.
6. "If you are the Son of God," he said, "throw yourself down. For it is written: "`He will command his angels concerning you, and they will lift you up in their hands, so that you will not strike your foot against a stone.' "
7. Jesus answered him, "It is also written: `Do not put the Lord your God to the test.' "
8. Again, the devil took him to a very high mountain and showed him all the kingdoms of the world and their splendor.
9. "All this I will give you," he said, "if you will bow down and worship me."
10. Jesus said to him, "Away from me, Satan! For it is written: `Worship the Lord your God, and serve him only.' "
11. Then the devil left him, and angels came and attended him.

NIV Matthew 11:10
This is the one about whom it is written: "`I will send my messenger ahead of you, who will prepare your way before you.'

NIV Matthew 21:13
"It is written," he said to them, "`My house will be called a house of prayer,' but you are making it a `den of robbers.' "

NIV Matthew 26:24
The Son of Man will go just as it is written about him.

NIV Matthew 26:31
Then Jesus told them, "This very night you will all fall away on account of me, for it is written: "`I will strike the shepherd, and the sheep of the flock will be scattered.'

NIV Mark 7:6-7
6. He replied, "Isaiah was right when he prophesied about you hypocrites; as it is written: "`These people honor me with their lips, but their hearts are far from me.
7. They worship me in vain; their teachings are but rules taught by men.'

NIV Mark 9:11-13
11. And they asked him, "Why do the teachers of the law say that Elijah must come first?"
12. Jesus replied, "To be sure, Elijah does come first, and restores all things. Why then is it written that the Son of Man must suffer much and be rejected?
13. But I tell you, Elijah has come, and they have done to him everything they wished, just as it is written about him."

NIV Mark 11:17
And as he taught them, he said, "Is it not written: "`My house will be called a house of prayer for all nations' ? But you have made it `a den of robbers.' "

NIV Mark 14:27
"You will all fall away," Jesus told them, "for it is written: "`I will strike the shepherd, and the sheep will be scattered.'

NIV Luke 1:1-4
1. Many have undertaken to draw up an account of the things that have been fulfilled among us,
2. just as they were handed down to us by those who from the first were eyewitnesses and servants of the word.
3. Therefore, since I myself have carefully investigated everything from the beginning, it seemed good also to me to write an orderly account for you, most excellent Theophilus,
4. so that you may know the certainty of the things you have been taught.

NIV Luke 4:17-19
17. The scroll of the prophet Isaiah was handed to him. Unrolling it, he found the place where it is written:
18. "The Spirit of the Lord is on me, because he has anointed me to preach good news to the poor. He has sent me to proclaim freedom for the prisoners and recovery of sight for the blind, to release the oppressed,
19. to proclaim the year of the Lord's favor."

NIV Luke 7:27
This is the one about whom it is written: "`I will send my messenger ahead of you, who will prepare your way before you.'

NIV Luke 10:26
"What is written in the Law?" he replied. "How do you read it?"

NIV Luke 18:31-33
31. Jesus took the Twelve aside and told them, "We are going up to Jerusalem, and everything that is written by the prophets about the Son of Man will be fulfilled.
32. He will be handed over to the Gentiles. They will mock him, insult him, spit on him, flog him and kill him.
33. On the third day he will rise again."

NIV Luke 20:17-18
17. Jesus looked directly at them and asked, "Then what is the meaning of that which is written: "`The stone the builders rejected has become the capstone ' ?
18. Everyone who falls on that stone will be broken to pieces, but he on whom it falls will be crushed."

NIV Luke 21:22
For this is the time of punishment in fulfillment of all that has been written.

NIV Luke 22:37
It is written: `And he was numbered with the transgressors' ; and I tell you that this must be fulfilled in me. Yes, what is written about me is reaching its fulfillment."

NIV Luke 24:44-47
44. He said to them, "This is what I told you while I was still with you: Everything must be fulfilled that is written about me in the Law of Moses, the Prophets and the Psalms."
45. Then he opened their minds so they could understand the Scriptures.
46. He told them, "This is what is written: The Christ will suffer and rise from the dead on the third day,
47. and repentance and forgiveness of sins will be preached in his name to all nations, beginning at Jerusalem.

NIV John 2:17
His disciples remembered that it is written: "Zeal for your house will consume me."
 
NIV John 6:31
Our forefathers ate the manna in the desert; as it is written: `He gave them bread from heaven to eat.' "

NIV John 6:45
It is written in the Prophets: `They will all be taught by God.' Everyone who listens to the Father and learns from him comes to me.

NIV John 12:14-16
14. Jesus found a young donkey and sat upon it, as it is written,
15. "Do not be afraid, O Daughter of Zion; see, your king is coming, seated on a donkey's colt."
16. At first his disciples did not understand all this. Only after Jesus was glorified did they realize that these things had been written about him and that they had done these things to him.

NIV John 15:25
But this is to fulfill what is written in their Law: `They hated me without reason.'

NIV John 20:30-31
30. Jesus did many other miraculous signs in the presence of his disciples, which are not recorded in this book.
31. But these are written that you may believe that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of God, and that by believing you may have life in his name.

NIV Acts 1:20
"For," said Peter, "it is written in the book of Psalms, "`May his place be deserted; let there be no one to dwell in it,' and, "`May another take his place of leadership.'

NIV Acts 7:42
But God turned away and gave them over to the worship of the heavenly bodies. This agrees with what is written in the book of the prophets: "`Did you bring me sacrifices and offerings forty years in the desert, O house of Israel?

NIV Acts 13:29
When they had carried out all that was written about him, they took him down from the tree and laid him in a tomb.

NIV Acts 13:32-33
32. "We tell you the good news: What God promised our fathers
33. he has fulfilled for us, their children, by raising up Jesus. As it is written in the second Psalm: "`You are my Son; today I have become your Father. '

NIV Acts 15:15-18
15. The words of the prophets are in agreement with this, as it is written:
16. "`After this I will return and rebuild David's fallen tent. Its ruins I will rebuild, and I will restore it,
17. that the remnant of men may seek the Lord, and all the Gentiles who bear my name, says the Lord, who does these things'
18. that have been known for ages.

NIV Acts 23:5
Paul replied, "Brothers, I did not realize that he was the high priest; for it is written: `Do not speak evil about the ruler of your people.' "

NIV Acts 24:14
However, I admit that I worship the God of our fathers as a follower of the Way, which they call a sect. I believe everything that agrees with the Law and that is written in the Prophets,
and I have the same hope in God as these men, that there will be a resurrection of both the righteous and the wicked.

NIV Romans 1:17
For in the gospel a righteousness from God is revealed, a righteousness that is by faith from first to last, just as it is written: "The righteous will live by faith."

NIV Romans 2:24
As it is written: "God's name is blasphemed among the Gentiles because of you."

NIV Romans 3:4
Not at all! Let God be true, and every man a liar. As it is written: "So that you may be proved right when you speak and prevail when you judge."

NIV Romans 3:10-12
10. As it is written: "There is no one righteous, not even one;
11. there is no one who understands, no one who seeks God.
12. All have turned away, they have together become worthless; there is no one who does good, not even one."

NIV Romans 4:17
As it is written: "I have made you a father of many nations." He is our father in the sight of God, in whom he believed--the God who gives life to the dead and calls things that are not as though they were.

NIV Romans 4:23-24
23. The words "it was credited to him" were written not for him alone,
24. but also for us, to whom God will credit righteousness--for us who believe in him who raised Jesus our Lord from the dead.

NIV Romans 8:36
As it is written: "For your sake we face death all day long; we are considered as sheep to be slaughtered."

NIV Romans 9:13
Just as it is written: "Jacob I loved, but Esau I hated."

NIV Romans 9:33
As it is written: "See, I lay in Zion a stone that causes men to stumble and a rock that makes them fall, and the one who trusts in him will never be put to shame."

NIV Romans 10:15
And how can they preach unless they are sent? As it is written, "How beautiful are the feet of those who bring good news!"

NIV Romans 11:7-10
7. What then? What Israel sought so earnestly it did not obtain, but the elect did. The others were hardened,
8. as it is written: "God gave them a spirit of stupor, eyes so that they could not see and ears so that they could not hear, to this very day."
9. And David says: "May their table become a snare and a trap, a stumbling block and a retribution for them.
10. May their eyes be darkened so they cannot see, and their backs be bent forever."

NIV Romans 11:26-27
26. And so all Israel will be saved, as it is written: "The deliverer will come from Zion; he will turn godlessness away from Jacob.
27. And this is my covenant with them when I take away their sins."

NIV Romans 12:19
Do not take revenge, my friends, but leave room for God's wrath, for it is written: "It is mine to avenge; I will repay," says the Lord.

NIV Romans 14:11
It is written: "`As surely as I live,' says the Lord, `every knee will bow before me; every tongue will confess to God.'"

NIV Romans 15:3-4
3. For even Christ did not please himself but, as it is written: "The insults of those who insult you have fallen on me."
4. For everything that was written in the past was written to teach us, so that through endurance and the encouragement of the Scriptures we might have hope.

NIV Romans 15:7-12
7. Accept one another, then, just as Christ accepted you, in order to bring praise to God.
8. For I tell you that Christ has become a servant of the Jews on behalf of God's truth, to confirm the promises made to the patriarchs
9. so that the Gentiles may glorify God for his mercy, as it is written: "Therefore I will praise you among the Gentiles; I will sing hymns to your name."
10. Again, it says, "Rejoice, O Gentiles, with his people."
11. And again, "Praise the Lord, all you Gentiles, and sing praises to him, all you peoples."
12. And again, Isaiah says, "The Root of Jesse will spring up, one who will arise to rule over the nations; the Gentiles will hope in him."

NIV Romans 15:21
Rather, as it is written: "Those who were not told about him will see, and those who have not heard will understand."

NIV 1 Corinthians 1:19
For it is written: "I will destroy the wisdom of the wise; the intelligence of the intelligent I will frustrate."

NIV 1 Corinthians 1:31
Therefore, as it is written: "Let him who boasts boast in the Lord."

NIV 1 Corinthians 2:9
However, as it is written: "No eye has seen, no ear has heard, no mind has conceived what God has prepared for those who love him" --

NIV 1 Corinthians 3:19-20
19. For the wisdom of this world is foolishness in God's sight. As it is written: "He catches the wise in their craftiness" ;
20. and again, "The Lord knows that the thoughts of the wise are futile."

NIV 1 Corinthians 4:6
Now, brothers, I have applied these things to myself and Apollos for your benefit, so that you may learn from us the meaning of the saying, "Do not go beyond what is written." Then you will not take pride in one man over against another.

NIV 1 Corinthians 9:9
For it is written in the Law of Moses: "Do not muzzle an ox while it is treading out the grain." Is it about oxen that God is concerned?

NIV 1 Corinthians 10:7
Do not be idolaters, as some of them were; as it is written: "The people sat down to eat and drink and got up to indulge in pagan revelry."

NIV 1 Corinthians 10:11
These things happened to them as examples and were written down as warnings for us, on whom the fulfillment of the ages has come.

NIV 1 Corinthians 14:21
In the Law it is written: "Through men of strange tongues and through the lips of foreigners I will speak to this people, but even then they will not listen to me," says the Lord.

NIV 1 Corinthians 15:45
So it is written: "The first man Adam became a living being" ; the last Adam, a life-giving spirit.

NIV 1 Corinthians 15:54
When the perishable has been clothed with the imperishable, and the mortal with immortality, then the saying that is written will come true: "Death has been swallowed up in victory."

NIV 2 Corinthians 1:13-14
13. For we do not write you anything you cannot read or understand. And I hope that,
14. as you have understood us in part, you will come to understand fully that you can boast of us just as we will boast of you in the day of the Lord Jesus.

NIV 2 Corinthians 4:13-14
13. it is written: "I believed; therefore I have spoken." With that same spirit of faith we also believe and therefore speak,
14. because we know that the one who raised the Lord Jesus from the dead will also raise us with Jesus and present us with you in his presence.

NIV 2 Corinthians 8:15
as it is written: "He who gathered much did not have too much, and he who gathered little did not have too little."

NIV Galatians 3:10
All who rely on observing the law are under a curse, for it is written: "Cursed is everyone who does not continue to do everything written in the Book of the Law."

NIV Galatians 3:13
Christ redeemed us from the curse of the law by becoming a curse for us, for it is written: "Cursed is everyone who is hung on a tree."

NIV Galatians 4:22
For it is written that Abraham had two sons, one by the slave woman and the other by the free woman.

NIV Galatians 4:27
For it is written: "Be glad, O barren woman, who bears no children; break forth and cry aloud, you who have no labor pains; because more are the children of the desolate woman than of her who has a husband."

NIV Hebrews 10:7
Then I said, `Here I am-- it is written about me in the scroll-- I have come to do your will, O God.'"

NIV 1 Peter 1:15-16
But just as he who called you is holy, so be holy in all you do; for it is written: "Be holy, because I am holy."

NIV 2 Peter 3:16
He writes the same way in all his letters, speaking in them of these matters. His letters contain some things that are hard to understand, which ignorant and unstable people distort, as they do the other Scriptures, to their own destruction.

NIV 1 John 2:12-14
12. I write to you, dear children, because your sins have been forgiven on account of his name.
13. I write to you, fathers, because you have known him who is from the beginning. I write to you young men, because you have overcome the evil one. I write to you, dear children, because you have known the Father.
14. I write to you, fathers, because you have known him who is from the beginning. I write to you, young men, because you are strong, and the word of God lives in you, and you have overcome the evil one.

80 posted on 03/27/2015 5:05:00 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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