I asked you first. Why the deflection?
I worship the one, true living God — but the Muslims don’t.”Allah” is not the one, true living God. And your CCC says Catholics worship the same god as Muslims. So... do YOU?
Uncomfy, isn’t it? Your Church tells you you worship the same god as Muslims.. and Muslims don’t worship the God of Christianity — Yahweh, or if you prefer, Jehovah, or if you prefer, the Great I AM — so that leaves Catholics in a bit of a pickle, doesn’t it?
And that’s why no one will give me a straight answer to this question. For, to answer as one’s heart would tell one (if one is Christian), would be to assent to worshipping the one, true living God; but that would mean forsaking Mother Church and accepting that Catholicism teaches gross error.
But, to answer with one’s Catholic heart is to forsake the truth of the Gospel, reject God Almighty, and accept the flawed teaching that makes the God of the Bible, and “Allah” — a false god — equivalent.
Hoss
Yep! Catholics will obfuscate on that subject because they can never answer it truthfully without consequences. The dodging is painful to watch.
“Why the deflection?”
No deflection at all. It’s all about exposing the hypocrisy of anti-Catholics - and it has worked every time.
“I worship the one, true living God — but the Muslims don’t.”
They profess to worship the God of Abraham. So do you. So do Jews.
“’Allah’ is not the one, true living God. And your CCC says Catholics worship the same god as Muslims. So... do YOU?”
Do you worship the God of Abraham? Muslims say they do. So do Jews. Jews DENY the Trinity. So do Muslims. So do Jews really worship the God of Abraham if they DENY the Trinity in general and Christ in particular.
“Uncomfy, isn’t it?”
Not one bit. Honestly, it isn’t uncomfortable for me one bit. Does it bother you, however, that Jews deny the Trinity? Can someone right;y understand God when they deny the Trinity? Do you and the Jews really both worship the same God if they deny two Divine Persons in that Triune Godhead? Uncomfy, isn’t it? Or is it?
“Your Church tells you you worship the same god as Muslims..”
No. It never says “god”. Do you know the difference between God and god? Do Jews (who deny the Trinity) worship God or god? Uncomfy, isn’t it? Or is it? Seeing that anti-Catholic hypocrisy yet? No? Yeah, blindness is a hard thing to fix when it is deliberately chosen.
“and Muslims don’t worship the God of Christianity — Yahweh, or if you prefer, Jehovah, or if you prefer, the Great I AM — so that leaves Catholics in a bit of a pickle, doesn’t it?”
No pickle at all. If Jews deny the Trinity - and the Trinity is the distinguishing characteristic of Christianity - does that create pickle for you? You profess to worship the same God they do yet they deny the Son of God (Jesus Christ) and the Holy Spirit. If you deny Jesus and the Holy Spirit, do you believe in the God of Christians, Hoss? Uncomfy, isn’t it? Or is it? Seeing that anti-Catholic hypocrisy yet?
“And that’s why no one will give me a straight answer to this question.”
You’re completely wrong. It’s exactly the hypocrisy of the anti-Catholic that is making Catholics point out the obvious: Jews deny the Trinity. Muslims deny the Trinity. Yet the anti-Catholics here are saying they worship the same God as Jews but not of Muslims. Yet both Jews and Muslims (and Christians) profess to believe in the God of Abraham. Some anti-Catholics here are even going so far as to say that Muslims are practicing taqiyya when they say they believe in the God of Abraham. The people practicing taqiyya are apparently the anti-Catholics who are either too stupid or too dishonest to understand that Jews must be in the same boat as Muslims according to their understanding of things because both groups deny the Trinity. Neither group has a proper, full, or orthodox understanding of God. Neither one. That doesn’t stop either group from professing they believe in the God of Abraham. Now, an anti-Catholic would have a retort to that. He would say something about how we received the faith from Jews, or Christianity is the fulfillment of Judaism (all true) and Islam is heresy or collection of heresies (right again) and that means that Jewish denial of Jesus and the Trinity is kosher while Muslim denial of it isn’t. Objectively, that doesn’t work.
“For, to answer as one’s heart would tell one (if one is Christian), would be to assent to worshipping the one, true living God;”
I worship the One, True, Living God - Who is a Trinity of Divine Persons - a Trinity denied by Jews and Muslims (and Jehovah’s Witnesses, Oneness Pentecostals, and Mormons too really)
“but that would mean forsaking Mother Church and accepting that Catholicism teaches gross error.”
Nope. The fact that Muslims are in error in their understanding of the God of Abraham (just as Jews are) does not impact the correct understanding one bit - and that’s what I hold. The Trinity is God. There is absolutely NOTHING flawed in that understanding of God. Only the Catholic view makes sense. Otherwise, Jews do not worship the God of Abraham.
“But, to answer with one’s Catholic heart is to forsake the truth of the Gospel,”
No, it is t affirm it. The Trinity is God. Jews and Muslims reject that fact. They both affirm to believe in the God of Abraham.
“reject God Almighty,”
No, it is t affirm it. The fact that Jews and Muslims reject the Trinity changes nothing about Christianity. The Trinity is God. Jews and Muslims reject that fact. They both affirm to believe in the God of Abraham.
“and accept the flawed teaching that makes the God of the Bible, and “Allah” — a false god — equivalent.”
To affirm there is only one God is exactly what every Christian does. There is no flawed teaching there. You might want to contact the Protestants of Malaysia and teach them your version of Christianity: http://www.wsj.com/articles/SB10001424052702304391204579179020301035570