“Intellectual laziness has nothing to do with it, unless it’s on the part of someone posting things without attribution.”
You can always do a little work or not. The choice is yours.
“Well, what terms did you use to search for in Google?”
Find it on your own. It’s G-O-O-G-L-E. How hard can it be?
“What didn’t you exclude or include?”
I included exactly what was necessary and what I knew would work from previous finds. I excluded everything else.
“How is he “average lazy anti-catholic” supposed to do if he doesn’t know WHAT you searched for of HOW you searched for it?”
It’s google. There’s effectively one way to search - you put words in the search box. Does that give you any ideas of how to do this ‘cause I am most certainly not going to help you do it. If I can do it - and I did this morning - than you can too. It’s just that simple.
“I suppose we lazy anti-catholics are going to have to learn to read your mind so that we can then go out, and satisfy you by searching for the “facts” on Google.”
You don’t have to satisfy me. This is all about satisfying you isn’t it? I didn’t post any links so you’re not satisfied, right? I hope you enjoy that lack of satisfaction because you’re only going to get more of it at this rate.
“You see, if you attribute the source, one can see that the fact is actually, a fact.”
Since I KNOW it is a fact I don’t have to “satisfy” you to have validation that it is a fact. I know it is a fact because I have already seen that it is factual. This sort of thing where a Protestant anti-Catholic makes a statement about something he apparently knows nothing about and then starts running in circles when evidence is posted happens all the time. Example on a related topic: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3044370/posts
I have seen that SO MANY TIMES that now I often simply refuse to do the work the Protestant anti-Catholic should be willing to do themselves.
“Until mind reading becomes a commonplace event, it’s going to be mighty hard to satisfy your request.”
No, it isn’t. You see google is easy to use. If you want to do the research, do it. If you don’t want to, then don’t.
“But, If you want to actually appear to be using trustworthy “facts,” it’s up to you to provide it to us lazy anti-cathoics.”
No. I know what I posted is absolutely correct. Whether or not you consider it to be “trustworthy” is completely irrelevant to me since I don’t believe you are remotely interested in the truth in the first place. Again, look at the thread I posted a link to. I posted evidence. It was irrefutable. Did it matter? Did it matter in the least? No. Anti-Catholics DO NOT CARE ABOUT THE TRUTH.
“Otherwise, we could just assume your “facts” are made up from whole cloth.”
I think the anti-Catholic should just go ahead and assume that. After all he would be wrong, but at least if someone does that he won’t feel any need to be intellectually and morally dishonest on top of it by pretending evidence given him was never actually given him, right? So the anti-Catholic should just go ahead and assume whatever he wants since that is how it always goes anyway no matter how much evidence is posted anyway. The truth doesn’t matter to anti-Catholics. They prove it here every day.
It's funny. The Roman Catholic Cultist has to go to "tradition" or to G-O-O-G-L-E to find what they need to try to twist truth; Christians (or, as stated before, we lazy non-Catholics) turn to what?
The B-I-B-L-E
Instead of all the mumbo-jumbo, we lazy non-Catholics look to
C-H-R-I-S-T
And we find the actual truth; not some gamed, twisted pap that results from the error of a church that seeks to mold God's word around man-made traditions instead of basing everything on God's word.
I would challenge you to try to write, or present, anything to any serious body of professionals or academics without presenting some form of attribution. You would be roundly, soundly, and properly laughed off of the podium.
If you want to try to convince us lazy non-Catholics, why NOT put your links in so we can go look at them, read them, and evaluate them -- after all, as you've stated, you're posting nothing but fact... why be afraid to put up your sources so we can see how factual you are?
While we're posting, are you interested yet in answering the question about whether you, as a faithful Roman Catholic, "acknowledge" and "adore" the same "merciful God" as do Muslims?
Here's where I got that quote, by the way:
"841 The Church's relationship with the Muslims. "The plan of salvation also includes those who acknowledge the Creator, in the first place amongst whom are the Muslims; these profess to hold the faith of Abraham, and together with us they adore the one, merciful God, mankind's judge on the last day."
Catechism of the Catholic Church.
Just so folks who read this don't think I'm making up the quote that I'm asking you about and hoping against hope that you would answer.
Without any refutation, this passage from the CCC says that Catholics and Muslims worship the same god. And we all know that Muslims do NOT worship Yahweh. Jehovah. The Trinity of God the Father, God the Son, and God the Holy Spirit. Muslims worship "Allah" who is NOT the God of Judaism and Christianity. But it does appear to be the god of Muslims and Roman Catholics -- at least according to this part of the Catechism of the Catholic Church.
Or, if you prefer:
Why does the Roman Catholic Church contradict scripture -- even contradicts Jesus Christ himself -- concerning the role of Mary as a "mediatrix"?
969 "This motherhood of Mary in the order of grace continues uninterruptedly from the consent which she loyally gave at the Annunciation and which she sustained without wavering beneath the cross, until the eternal fulfillment of all the elect. Taken up to heaven she did not lay aside this saving office but by her manifold intercession continues to bring us the gifts of eternal salvation . . . . Therefore the Blessed Virgin is invoked in the Church under the titles of Advocate, Helper, Benefactress, and Mediatrix."
So... The Roman Catholic Cult states that Mary intercedes for sinners, provides them with grace, as well as salvation and as a result she is a 'mediatrix' -- yet, the scriptures say:
In John 14:6, Jesus himself says:
Jesus said to him, “I am lthe way, and the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me
Did God lie? He must have if the CCC says Mary provides intercession, right? If Jesus says 'no one' it means NO ONE, right? No one comes to the Father except through Jesus. That's what Jesus said.
So way does the CCC contradict God?
Also, why does the CCC contradict God when they say she is a 'mediatrix' when God says in 1 Timothy 2:5:
"5 For there is one God, and there is one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus"
Which G-O-O-G-L-E sites can you show me that says God is a liar? It surely appears that the Roman Catholic Cult's Catechism is surely lying?
So, if the Catholic Cult will lie about these things it can lie about *anything* -- and so puts the end to you earlier claim that the Catholic Church does not teach falsehood.
Help me out here and give me something that can back up your FACTS to the contrary.
Hoss