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To: vladimir998; Springfield Reformer; Boogieman; HossB86; metmom; CynicalBear
It does matter. It also matters what they PROFESS to believe. If they profess to believe in Jesus I am not going to say they don’t profess to believe in Jesus.

All this back and forth over the word "profess" is completely missing the point made back over two hundred posts ago. Yes, Muslims "profess" to believe in the God of Abraham - no one has denied that - but the real problem in agreeing with the Roman Catholic Catechism's statement is not that part but the phrase, "Together with us they adore the one, merciful God, mankind’s judge on the last day.".

The Catechism goes on to say, "The Church regards with esteem also the Moslems. They adore the one God, living and subsisting in Himself; merciful and all-powerful, the Creator of heaven and earth, who has spoken to men; they take pains to submit wholeheartedly to even his inscrutable decrees, just as Abraham, with whom the faith of Islam takes pleasure in linking itself, submitted to God."

The objection all along has NOT been about who Muslims "profess" to believe in but that the RCC regards Muslims with "esteem" and agrees that Catholics worship the same god as they do. Until this error is dealt with, we could continue to play semantic games and NEVER get to the point. Christians DO NOT worship the same god as Muslims, no matter who they profess him to be. The false god, Allah, is NOT Jehovah, the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob - the only true God.

434 posted on 03/27/2015 8:48:40 PM PDT by boatbums (God is ready to assume full responsibility for the life wholly yielded to Him.)
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To: boatbums

Amen, thanks!


436 posted on 03/27/2015 8:52:53 PM PDT by Syncro (There is ONE God, a jealous God. Worship him only, not the Islam/Muslim god)
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To: boatbums
The objection all along has NOT been about who Muslims "profess" to believe in but that the RCC regards Muslims with "esteem" and agrees that Catholics worship the same god as they do. Until this error is dealt with, we could continue to play semantic games and NEVER get to the point. Christians DO NOT worship the same god as Muslims, no matter who they profess him to be. The false god, Allah, is NOT Jehovah, the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob - the only true God.

This seems vaguely Masonic.


As long as a member believes in some type of Supreme Being; the organization doesn't really care WHO or WHAT it is.

452 posted on 03/28/2015 3:53:32 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: boatbums

That’s point I’ve been trying to make. But it’s not about the truth, boat, it’s about RC’s winning an argument. I don’t know how many times I quoted and highlighted that — but you know how it is: RC’s that strident are blind to any truth, much less THE truth.

Hoss


462 posted on 03/28/2015 6:12:36 AM PDT by HossB86 (Christ, and Him alone.)
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