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To: Resettozero; af_vet_1981; Iscool

You were dancing around yesterday saying the same things over and over and I indicated I didn’t want to stay any longer at your dance.

And here you are doing the Johnny-One-Note two-step again.

Do you think you’re fooling someone?


What is it with you, man?

I sent you post 606 because you asked: “How many more times do you want to dance this same dance?”

I responded: “When it can be shown where Scripture contradicts the following verses that clearly support the concept that Mary was the mother of God incarnate.”

Instead of showing me where Scripture contradicts those verses, you decided to “walk home.”

I do not think I am fooling anyone. I am just trying to understand how it can be denied that these verses clearly show that the child that Mary conceived and brought forth is God, making her the mother of God.

In the same way, af_vet is not asking a trick question. He is simply asking if you agree with what scripture says in Matthew 1:18-23. These verses support the doctrine that Mary is the mother of God because “she shall bring forth a son” “that it might be fulfilled which was spoken of the Lord by the prophet, saying, Behold, a virgin shall be with child, and shall bring forth a son, and they shall call his name Emmanuel, which being interpreted is, God with us.”

Similarly, Luke 1:26-35 supports the doctrine that Mary is the mother of God because “that holy thing which shall be born of” her “shall be called the Son of God.”

Luke 1:39-45, Luke 2:4-12, Luke 2:25-35, and Matthew 2:1-15 support the doctrine in the same way.

Before sending this, I will give my answer to your question, why is this matter important to me.

Day after day on this forum, Catholics are bashed for not following Scripture. Frequently, we are asked “Where does it say in Scripture” when it is well known that Catholic doctrine is based on Sacred Scripture and Sacred Tradition. For the doctrine of Mary being the mother of God, though, we have shown “where it says in Scripture.” Rather than acknowledging this truth or explaining why it is not so, Catholic bashers simply do not address the Scriptures that are provided. Instead they just say “Mary is not the mother of God” without giving any specifics why the referenced Scriptures are being wrongly interpreted. When asked to show where Scripture says “Mary is not the mother of God,” there is no response. This is why it matters to me.

Now, instead of hurling insults or griping about Catholic doctrine, can you try to give an honest response why you do not think the referenced Scriptures show that Mary is the mother of God?


831 posted on 03/26/2015 4:37:38 PM PDT by rwa265
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To: rwa265
Now, instead of hurling insults or griping about Catholic doctrine, can you try to give an honest response why you do not think the referenced Scriptures show that Mary is the mother of God?

Because the Holy Spirit did not lead the writers of the Scripture to say what you extrapolate from Scripture, as you have been informed repeatedly by me and other FReepers as well.

Even the concept that Mary is the mother of God is not taught anywhere in the Bible. It is a belief propounded mainly by Roman Catholics, among other sects.

It is not Scriptural. Scripture does not record the words or the idea that Mary is the mother of God. In fact, this notion is blasphemous.
832 posted on 03/26/2015 4:51:18 PM PDT by Resettozero
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To: rwa265
In the same way, af_vet is not asking a trick question. He is simply asking if you agree with what scripture says in Matthew 1:18-23. These verses support the doctrine that Mary is the mother of God because “she shall bring forth a son” “that it might be fulfilled which was spoken of the Lord by the prophet, saying, Behold, a virgin shall be with child, and shall bring forth a son, and they shall call his name Emmanuel, which being interpreted is, God with us.”

Amen. We do not look for another young woman who is a virgin to conceive and call her son Immanuel. Miriam/Mary is the mother of Immanuel. Thus Miriam/Mary is the mother of "God with us" and it is thus according to the scriptures.

Therefore the Lord himself shall give you a sign; Behold, a virgin shall conceive, and bear a son, and shall call his name Immanuel.

Now all this was done, that it might be fulfilled which was spoken of the Lord by the prophet, saying, Behold, a virgin shall be with child, and shall bring forth a son, and they shall call his name Emmanuel, which being interpreted is, God with us.
Isaiah, Catholic chapter seven, Protestant verse fourteen,
Matthew, Catholic chapter one, Protestant verses twenty two to twenty three,
as authorized, but not authored, by King James

851 posted on 03/27/2015 5:25:31 AM PDT by af_vet_1981 (The bus came by and I got on, That's when it all began.)
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