To: Resettozero
You need lasik surgery or an updated pair of glasses. You mean in Ruth, Song of Solomon; where and in which Book is He not present?
Song of Solomon would be the biggest offender. Those are Solomon's love sonets to his concubines. Seriously don't try to use some tortured logic for which this could in some strange way be scripture. Because it's not.
The Prophecy of Ahijah (2 Chr. 9:29) didn't make it in...but Song of Solomon did... what's wrong with this picture? There's a long list of writings from true prophets they threw out in favor of Song of Solomon.
I wish we had the Prophecy of Ahijah. It probably said something important...
To: StormPrepper
What’s “Prophecy of Ahijah?”
I don’t know why SOS is in the Bible. God’s will is a mystery. But I have to admit it drives me crazy how often I hear people say “Song of Solomon is a beautiful book about monogamous love”.
Serious? Right in there it says something like “I have many wives and concubines, but you are the fairest”.
425 posted on
03/25/2015 5:59:20 AM PDT by
MNDude
To: StormPrepper
Those are Solomon's love sonets to his concubines.
457 posted on
03/25/2015 6:43:11 AM PDT by
Elsie
(Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
To: StormPrepper
<>Seriously don't try to use some tortured logic for which this could in some strange way be scripture.
Good advice!!
THE
DOCTRINE AND COVENANTS
OF THE CHURCH OF JESUS CHRIST OF LATTER-DAY SAINTS
SECTION 89
Revelation given through Joseph Smith the Prophet, at Kirtland, Ohio, February 27, 1833. HC 1: 327–329. As a consequence of the early brethren using tobacco in their meetings, the Prophet was led to ponder upon the matter; consequently he inquired of the Lord concerning it. This revelation, known as the Word of Wisdom, was the result. The first three verses were originally written as an inspired introduction and description by the Prophet.
1–9, Use of wine, strong drinks, tobacco, and hot drinks proscribed; 10–17, Herbs, fruits, flesh, and grain are ordained for the use of man and of animals; 18–21, Obedience to gospel law, including the Word of Wisdom, brings temporal and spiritual blessings.
1
A aWord OF Wisdom, for the benefit of the council of high priests, assembled in Kirtland, and the church, and also the saints in Zion—
2 To be sent greeting; not by commandment or constraint, but by revelation and the
aword of wisdom, showing forth the order and
bwill of God in the temporal salvation of all saints in the last days—
3 Given for a principle with
apromise, adapted to the capacity of the
bweak and the weakest of all
csaints, who are or can be called saints.
4 Behold, verily, thus saith the Lord unto you: In consequence of
aevils and designs which do and will exist in the hearts of
bconspiring men in the last days, I have
cwarned you, and forewarn you, by giving unto you this
word of wisdom by revelation—
5 That inasmuch as
any man adrinketh bwine or strong drink among you, behold it is not good, neither meet in the sight of your Father, only in assembling yourselves together to offer up your sacraments before him.
6 And, behold, this should be wine, yea,
apure wine of the grape of the vine, of your own make.
7 And, again,
astrong drinks are not for the belly,
but for the washing of your bodies. 8 And again, tobacco is not for the
abody, neither for the belly, and is not good for man, but is an herb for bruises and all sick cattle, to be used with judgment and skill.
9 And again, hot drinks are not for the body or belly.
10 And again, verily I say unto you, all wholesome
aherbs God hath ordained for the constitution, nature, and use of man—
11 Every herb in the season thereof, and every fruit in the season thereof; all these to be used with
aprudence and
bthanksgiving.
12 Yea,
aflesh also of
bbeasts and of the fowls of the air, I, the Lord, have ordained for the use of man with thanksgiving; nevertheless they are to be used
csparingly;
13 And it is pleasing unto me that they should not be
aused, only in times of winter, or of cold, or
bfamine.
14 All
agrain is ordained for the use of man and of beasts, to be the staff of life, not only for man but for the beasts of the field, and the fowls of heaven, and all wild animals that run or creep on the earth;
15 And
athese hath God made for the use of man only in times of famine and excess of hunger.
16 All grain is good for the
afood of man; as also the
bfruit of the vine; that which yieldeth fruit, whether in the ground or above the ground—
17 Nevertheless, wheat for man, and corn for the ox, and oats for the horse, and rye for the fowls and for swine, and for all beasts of the field, and barley for all useful animals, and for mild drinks, as also other grain.
18 And all saints who remember to keep and do these sayings, walking in obedience to the commandments,
ashall receive
bhealth in their navel and marrow to their bones;
20 And shall
arun and not be
bweary, and shall walk and not faint.
21 And I, the Lord, give unto them a promise, that the
adestroying angel shall
bpass by them, as the children of Israel, and not slay them. Amen.
458 posted on
03/25/2015 6:44:01 AM PDT by
Elsie
(Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
To: StormPrepper
I wish we had the Prophecy of Ahijah. It probably said something important... You DO; however; have the words of THIS Prophet!
"Now if any of you will deny the plurality of wives, and continue to do so, I promise that you will be damned;
and I will go still further and say, take this revelation, or any other revelation that the Lord has given,
and deny it in your feelings, and I promise that you will be damned.
Brigham Young - JoD 3:266 (July 14, 1855)
Do you consider these words to be important?
459 posted on
03/25/2015 6:46:25 AM PDT by
Elsie
(Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
To: StormPrepper; Resettozero; All
The Prophecy of Ahijah (2 Chr. 9:29) didn't make it in...but Song of Solomon did... what's wrong with this picture? There's a long list of writings from true prophets they threw out in favor of Song of Solomon. I wish we had the Prophecy of Ahijah.So what? There's a long list of other regarded "prophets" by Book of Mormon characters who weren't (fully) inclusive about their fave-cited "prophets" either!
* The large plates of Nephi [reduced to an abridgement: 3 Nephi 5:8-17; Words of Mormon 1]
* The supposed "numerous plates" buried in a hill that the "prophet" Mormon didn't touch (Mormon 1:3-4)
* The unabridged version of Ether (Ether 1:1-5; Moroni 1:1)
* Zenock? (1 Nephi 19:10; Alma 34:7; Helaman 8:20; 3 Nephi 10:15-16)
* Neum? (1 Nephi 19:10)
* Zenos? (1 Nephi 19:10-17; Jacob 5:1; 6:1; Alma 33:3ff; Alma 34:7; Helaman 8:19; 15:11; 3 Nephi 10:15-16)
* Isaiah (70% of his stuff that was excluded from 2 Nephi)
* Malachi (50% of his stuff that was excluded from 3 Nephi)
I think I know the answer, but I'll ask it anyway: Why the selective targeting of those you regard as Scriptural kingpins? I mean, how convenient it is for you to let all of these Book of Mormon "prophets" off the hook of the same charges you level at others!!!
Please tell us: Where's your scrutiny to be leveled across the board (aimed equally to the Book of Mormon)?
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I need to give a sample explanation here so that others understand what's involved:
If the Mormon "prophets" knew that some of these sacred books of old would be at risk of becoming "lost"..."discarded"...etc. & hence need to be set apart for a future "restoration" via gold-plate face-in-the-hat methodology
(not sure what good a gold plate is when a hat works just as well :) ) ...
...well, surely that would include ALL of the book of Isaiah...
...and ALL of the book of Malachi!
(NOTE to NON-Mormons: You may not realize that one Book of Mormon book, before Joseph Smith really got rolling, cited 19 chapters directly ... King James word-for-King James word ... and the next Nephi chapter did the same thing with two chapters from the book of Malachi)
The prophet Isaiah lived 740-681 B.C. -- his death date perhaps being less than 100 years before the alleged dates of when 2 Nephi was supposedly written (588-570 B.C.)
It could very well be that Isaiah was highly regarded but that his work was yet to be fully recognized as an addition to sacred Scripture around the time of 588-570 B.C.
So perhaps Isaiah's work was at risk of being lost. Why did the 2 Nephi choose to throw out 47 chapters of Isaiah -- and only include 19 chapters word for word?
Why did the 3 Nephi only include two word-for-word chapters of the book of Malachi? Why did they toss out the rest?
It's very easy for Stormprepper to toss out these accusations, but then fail to aim similar questions at his own acknowledged sacred texts.
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