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Holy Father: Why have you allowed this man to take possession of his Cathedra?
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| 3/23/2015
Posted on 03/23/2015 4:21:31 PM PDT by ebb tide
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To: babygene
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>> “We were given 10 rules to live by. Only 10” <<
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Really?
We were given hundreds of laws to live by, and each of them was carefully thought out by our Father in Heaven, and found to be necessary for life on Earth.
Yeshua’s apostles preached these laws daily throughout their lives, and paid with their lives for doing so. Are you going to tell them that they were wasting their time?
Yeshua has promised to write those same laws on our hearts, but only if we allow him to do so.
Have you told him no?
Just wondering.
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posted on
03/23/2015 9:17:17 PM PDT
by
editor-surveyor
(Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
To: editor-surveyor
Yes obedience is not a game of BINGO. or Jeopardy. I’ll take venial for 1,000 Alex.
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posted on
03/23/2015 9:32:07 PM PDT
by
redleghunter
(In the beginning, God created the heavens and the earth (Gen. 1:1))
To: editor-surveyor
“We were given hundreds of laws to live by, and each of them was carefully thought out by our Father in Heaven, and found to be necessary for life on Earth.”
OK, go for it ... spell them out.
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posted on
03/23/2015 9:35:04 PM PDT
by
babygene
To: babygene
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Read the Torah that the apostles preached.
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posted on
03/23/2015 9:36:46 PM PDT
by
editor-surveyor
(Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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Good night folks, tomorrow is another day.
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posted on
03/23/2015 9:38:18 PM PDT
by
editor-surveyor
(Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
Comment #46 Removed by Moderator
To: Torahman
Repentance is not understood in Christianity. Repentance or Teshuvah in Hebrew, means to return to G-d and return to keeping His Torah. It does not mean to feel sorry for your sins and tell G-d youll try to do better. Real repentance has always meant returning to Torah. Rome abandoned the Torah and sought to pick her way through the commandments like they were a Brunch Buffet, choosing the statutes that she could credibly blend with the Greco-Roman Paganism of the Empires masses. The result was a Jekyll and Hyde Institution that could produce great culture as well as great evil. What a mess! Now the whole structure is failing under the stress of Post Modern assaults and it does not have the ability to project power in a decisive way. Isam does not have this problem. The Answer is for Christians to return to their identity as grafted in branches of greater Israel. That would mean that they would say, We were wrong! Help us to come home!Exactly right. Torah allows one to discern the oommon from the set-apart. How can one 'sin no more' if one does not understand what sin is?
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posted on
03/23/2015 10:01:42 PM PDT
by
roamer_1
(Globalism is just socialism in a business suit.)
To: babygene; ebb tide
Breaking ANY of the commandments is a mortal sin.You are right - The wages of sin is death.
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posted on
03/23/2015 10:08:25 PM PDT
by
roamer_1
(Globalism is just socialism in a business suit.)
To: redleghunter
Thats quite ridiculous. There are ample examples in scriptures of those lying to evil authority to protect innocent lives.No, I was actually told that by a born again pastor of a congregation, and yes, it was ridiculous.
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posted on
03/23/2015 10:24:29 PM PDT
by
Jeff Chandler
(Doctrine doesn't change. The trick is to find a way around it.)
To: babygene
Breaking ANY of the commandments is a mortal sin.You've never heard of venial sins?
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posted on
03/23/2015 10:26:16 PM PDT
by
Jeff Chandler
(Doctrine doesn't change. The trick is to find a way around it.)
To: ebb tide
How can sinners obtain salvation if they pretend to be repentant but continue in their sins with no resolve to sin no more?How can someone know another's heart from a few words about them in an article?
One can resolve to "sin no more" all he wants and never achieve that goal - if any living man could do that, Jesus would not have had to hang from the Cross - He died at the hands of sinners that sinners may be redeemed and we should rejoice in that and recognize the logs in our own eyes before judging others. We all have the logs - many choose to fool themselves that they don't or that their own logs are different because they really know how to repent better than all the dang heathens in the world.
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posted on
03/24/2015 3:56:54 AM PDT
by
trebb
(Where in the the hell has my country gone?)
To: knarf
"Holy Father: Why have you allowed this man to take possession of his Cathedra?"
Why did the father appoint Ahab King of Israel or Mannassah King of Judah? We cannot know his ways.
To: babygene
Two people show-up at the Pearly Gates.
One of them, when asked by their boss “What time did you get to work this morning”, replies “Eight o’clock”, when, in actuality, it was 8:02.
The other lied under oath at a criminal trial, resulting in the wrongful conviction and execution of an innocent person.
Do you claim those two will be judged equal in their transgressions?
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posted on
03/24/2015 4:56:04 AM PDT
by
DuncanWaring
(The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
To: ebb tide
You don't think that murder is a graver sin than a third grader cheating on a math test?Not in God's eyes.
The wages of sin is death. All it took was Adam and Eve eating a piece of fruit. Was that worse than cheating on a math test?
Disobeying God is disobeying God, whatever form it takes and the penalty os the same.
You all Catholics need to take sin a little more seriously.
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posted on
03/24/2015 5:51:15 AM PDT
by
metmom
(...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
To: redleghunter
Guessing the RC response based on history, they’d be expected to live together in a sexless marriage.
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posted on
03/24/2015 5:54:54 AM PDT
by
metmom
(...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
To: DuncanWaring; Jeff Chandler
“Do you claim those two will be judged equal in their transgressions?”
While it is true that stealing for instance is not on the same level as committing murder. The gravity of mortal sin can vary. But that should bring little comfort to anyone whose eternal salvation is at risk.
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posted on
03/24/2015 6:19:52 AM PDT
by
babygene
To: babygene
The gravity of mortal sin can vary. The Church teaches that sins which are not grave are venial sins. Do believe in the teachings of the Catholic Church?
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posted on
03/24/2015 7:31:39 AM PDT
by
Jeff Chandler
(Doctrine doesn't change. The trick is to find a way around it.)
To: metmom
The wages of sin is death. All it took was Adam and Eve eating a piece of fruit. Was that worse than cheating on a math test? Disobeying God is disobeying God, whatever form it takes and the penalty os the same. You all Catholics need to take sin a little more seriously.
Let's hope that's not true; lest there be plenty of FReepers in h*ll (both Catholic and not) who have committed the sin of sloth (wasting time on the FR religion forum for years and years on end).
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posted on
03/24/2015 7:33:49 AM PDT
by
mlizzy
("Tell your troubles to Jesus," my wisecracking father used to say, and now I do.......at adoration.)
To: metmom
You don't think that murder is a graver sin than a third grader cheating on a math test? Not in God's eyes.Wow. Just wow.
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posted on
03/24/2015 7:36:34 AM PDT
by
Jeff Chandler
(Doctrine doesn't change. The trick is to find a way around it.)
To: Jeff Chandler
“The Church teaches that sins which are not grave are venial sins.”
Of course there are venial sins. Many of those are “things that I have failed to do”... For a sin to be a mortal sin one has to know that it’s a sin and consciously do it anyway.
Please point out, with regard to the ten commandants, the ones you do not know to be sinful... And which ones you think are trivial.
I would refer you to http://www.saintaquinas.com/mortal_sin.html
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posted on
03/24/2015 8:13:18 AM PDT
by
babygene
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