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When it comes, you probably won’t have to ask.
End times Ping
Verse from the same speech:
“And then shall they see the Son of man coming in a cloud with power and great glory.”
Like 21:27
This happened? When?
“Conclusion: The events surrounding the destruction of Jerusalem as predicted by Jesus in the Olivet Discourse were restricted by Him to the region and the people of Judea in the first century.”
Co-incidentally, I have been reading some books by Moses Stuart, John Stuart Russell about this topic. Same conclusion.
Agree with the author 1000%.
The only item in prophecy left to be fulfilled is Judgement Day.
That’s what was taught in Christendom, up till relatively recently.
Nonsense. How about, for example, the mark of the beast? How about the 70th week (7 years) of Daniel? The tribulation will be world wide, not confined to the middle east. So many events that clearly did not happen in 70 AD,
The greatest tribulation that has been or will ever be. If the days were not shortened, no flesh would be saved alive. Nah, hasn’t happened yet.
Just about every generation thought they were going through Tribulation. Imagine what the people thought during WW2 or prior to that the Great Depression.
The current ideas about a future 2nd Coming date back to the 19th century, not ancient history.
If the prophecy was for the disciples... that all of this would be fulfilled and THEY would SEE it.... then Jesus missed it. Most of them were dead by the time Jerusalem was destroyed in 70AD
error! “Matthew 23:35That upon YOU may come all the righteous blood shed upon the EARTH [ge], from the blood of righteous Abel unto the blood of Zacharias. This is a clear reference to the Jewish people, and not to all the people on the globe. “
Abel is not Jewish is he?
Preterist nonsense alert. Flat earth society.
Immediately after the tribulation he's speaking of? Are you arguing that the Son of Man has already returned? Immediately after the tribulation surrounded around Nero and the destruction of the temple?
Passover 5775 it begins
Revelation 16:21 “And there fell upon men a great hail out of heaven, every stone about the weight of a talent: and men blasphemed God because of the plague of the hail; for the plague thereof was exceeding great.”
According to Josephus the heavy common talent weighed around 133 pounds. It’s funny nobody wrote any history about 133 pound hailstones.
This is a good thread to mark as the foolishness of those who really think the Great Tribulation has passed, have spoken such with their own words. Such are their words and their witness between themselves, they stand doubly accused by their own words.
The internal and external evidence does not support full preterism nor partial preterism.
With the large use of lexicon replacement of the Greek, failure to address the Hebrew scriptures and yet unfulfilled prophecy, a preterism should just stick with the amil view of prophecy.
A good metric for prophecy fulfillment is to look at the Messianic prophecies. Many were “tucked in” passages with multiple subjects. Not easily seen to the eye. We see this with the religious authorities of Jesus Christ’s time. But what can all Christians agree on? Everyone of the Messianic prophecies were fulfilled literally down to the jot and tittle.
As we know there are Messianic prophecies yet to be fulfilled. Jesus said so. When we look at those TaNaKh passages on His second coming (and verified in the NT) why are we to assume Messiah will turn to allegory or symbol when thus far all have been literal? To make this shift is inconsistent. Either inconsistent or a lack of faith Messiah will do exactly what He said He would do.
So I see a lot of wresting of the Greek, ignoring the Hebrew scriptures (OT) and more wresting of firm external evidence trying to put John’s writing of Revelation prior to 70 AD.
Preterists are better off being amil. At least they are consistent in their approach. They at least look forward to the second coming of Christ.
Eschatology is a great subject to study and discuss. Those passages and books are there for a reason. Let us not kick each other away from the Lord’s Table over it.
The Great Tribulation begins on April 23, 2019.
No, I am not kidding.
See the spreadsheet associated with the following article.
Look for cell W24.
https://unsealedprophecy.wordpress.com/2014/11/24/psalm-83-war-september-2015/
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Everything beyond verse 4 of Matthew 24 is future, although some of the persecution has also happened in the past.
As to the Revelation, we are at the end of the 5th seal, and it is clear to see that the 6th seal events are ready to proceed.
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