Here we go again with "in today's world". Are we that much more civilized now? Take legalized abortion for example.
What about judging people?
Hmm, a Pope who hasn’t read the Bible. Somehow I think that is not a first.
This is heresy.
https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Exodus+20%3A13&version=KJV
Exodus 20:13 King James Version (KJV)
13 Thou shalt not kill.
Wrong!
See Leviticus 24:17
Read the Bible.
Popie is right. To hell with the “death penalty”. Turn the perp over to the family members of the “loved one” and let them handle it. That would cut down on that “cruel and unusual” bull****.
Many a murderer has repented solely due to the knowledge of his impending execution while understanding that God's justice is being served.
I am not aware of any case in which an executed murderer committed another crime.
When I hear people talking against the death penalty, what I hear them saying is that they don’t think that anything one person does to another, even murder, is very serious.
As far as I am concerned, when a human being murders another human being (for fun, revenge, to get them out of the way, whatever), they give up their right to be considered human. At that point, imposing the death penalty is much like euthanizing a dangerous dog.
Jesus didn’t speak out against the death penalty. In fact, he accepted it on himself despite having committed no crime.
Pope Francis has just cheapened the lives of Catholics worldwide with such an idiotic statement.
re: “However serious the crime, he says, an execution does not bring justice to the victims, but rather encourages revenge and denies any hope of repentence or reparation for the crime that has been committed.”
This statement makes no logical sense. The whole point of the death penalty in God’s Law is restitution. If you steal, you not only return what you stole, but four times the value to your victims.
With premeditated murder, there is no material restitution possible to the victim, except that the murderer has their life taken in restitution for the life of the murdered victim.
As to “repentance”, it is still possible for someone who committed murder to receive forgiveness from God - even possibly from the family of the victim. But, the dead victim cannot forgive the crime that was committed against them - they are dead! So, even though a murderer can be forgiven, the crime in this physical world, must still be carried out for justice sake.
This poor man is a lost soul... Matt 10:28
Where does the pope pull this nonsense from the Bible? I am not anti-Catholic, but I don’t have any idea whom this man is speaking for.
I posted this on another thread a week or so ago. This is a very good article about the anti-death penalty movement and Traditional Catholic teaching on the DP:
https://harvestingthefruit.com/deathpenalty/
..except in the United States where it is maybe the end of a twenty year sentence spent in jail, not used for political purposes, and as often as not, overturned for one reason or another, with plenty of time for repentance.
Then again, I sincerely think that the Pope wasn’t talking about the US death sentences.
What a moron. He is equating 'murder' with 'justice'. The murderer is executed for the sake of "JUSTICE". This Pope is anathema.
He should take that up with his Boss.
What about the victims? It seems that no one cares about them.
Simple solution: Give a fixed two-week period between conviction and execution with the full availability of a Catholic priest during that period.
None of Hitler’s henchmen deserved to be hanged? None of the Boka Haram murdering and raping children deserve death? None of the filthy ISIS beheaders deserve death? The Newtown shooter would have not deserved death? What about the Columbine killers? What about the Tsarnaev’s of Boston Marathon bombing fame?
If you value the lives of people, you should approve of a death sentence for those who unjustly and cruelly take the lives of others.