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In today's world, the death penalty is "inadmissible, however serious the crime" that has been committed.

Here we go again with "in today's world". Are we that much more civilized now? Take legalized abortion for example.

1 posted on 03/20/2015 1:12:27 PM PDT by ebb tide
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What about judging people?


2 posted on 03/20/2015 1:13:30 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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Hmm, a Pope who hasn’t read the Bible. Somehow I think that is not a first.


3 posted on 03/20/2015 1:14:04 PM PDT by Tzfat
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the death penalty is "inadmissible, however serious the crime"

This is heresy.

4 posted on 03/20/2015 1:14:31 PM PDT by piusv
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https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Exodus+20%3A13&version=KJV

Exodus 20:13 King James Version (KJV)

13 Thou shalt not kill.


5 posted on 03/20/2015 1:16:53 PM PDT by FewsOrange
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Wrong!

See Leviticus 24:17

Read the Bible.


6 posted on 03/20/2015 1:17:02 PM PDT by Trapped Behind Enemy Lines
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Popie is right. To hell with the “death penalty”. Turn the perp over to the family members of the “loved one” and let them handle it. That would cut down on that “cruel and unusual” bull****.


7 posted on 03/20/2015 1:17:09 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (Hillary 2016! Because we don't have anybody else! - The DNC donors)
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For Christians, he says, all life is sacred because every one of us is created by God, who does not want to punish one murder with another, but rather wishes to see the murderer repent.

Many a murderer has repented solely due to the knowledge of his impending execution while understanding that God's justice is being served.

8 posted on 03/20/2015 1:18:42 PM PDT by ebb tide (We have a rogue curia in Rome.)
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I am not aware of any case in which an executed murderer committed another crime.

When I hear people talking against the death penalty, what I hear them saying is that they don’t think that anything one person does to another, even murder, is very serious.

As far as I am concerned, when a human being murders another human being (for fun, revenge, to get them out of the way, whatever), they give up their right to be considered human. At that point, imposing the death penalty is much like euthanizing a dangerous dog.


9 posted on 03/20/2015 1:19:45 PM PDT by exDemMom (Current visual of the hole the US continues to dig itself into: http://www.usdebtclock.org/)
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Jesus didn’t speak out against the death penalty. In fact, he accepted it on himself despite having committed no crime.


10 posted on 03/20/2015 1:19:46 PM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (True followers of Christ emulate Christ. True followers of Mohammed emulate Mohammed.)
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Pope Francis has just cheapened the lives of Catholics worldwide with such an idiotic statement.


14 posted on 03/20/2015 1:21:46 PM PDT by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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re: “However serious the crime, he says, an execution “does not bring justice to the victims, but rather encourages revenge” and denies any hope of repentence or reparation for the crime that has been committed.”

This statement makes no logical sense. The whole point of the death penalty in God’s Law is restitution. If you steal, you not only return what you stole, but four times the value to your victims.

With premeditated murder, there is no material restitution possible to the victim, except that the murderer has their life taken in restitution for the life of the murdered victim.

As to “repentance”, it is still possible for someone who committed murder to receive forgiveness from God - even possibly from the family of the victim. But, the dead victim cannot forgive the crime that was committed against them - they are dead! So, even though a murderer can be forgiven, the crime in this physical world, must still be carried out for justice sake.


17 posted on 03/20/2015 1:23:48 PM PDT by rusty schucklefurd
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This poor man is a lost soul... Matt 10:28


18 posted on 03/20/2015 1:24:11 PM PDT by RnMomof7
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Where does the pope pull this nonsense from the Bible? I am not anti-Catholic, but I don’t have any idea whom this man is speaking for.


20 posted on 03/20/2015 1:26:58 PM PDT by alstewartfan (You're a worn-out face in all the hangout places Where the lost souls congregate. Al Stewart)
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I posted this on another thread a week or so ago. This is a very good article about the anti-death penalty movement and Traditional Catholic teaching on the DP:

https://harvestingthefruit.com/deathpenalty/


21 posted on 03/20/2015 1:28:06 PM PDT by piusv
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..except in the United States where it is maybe the end of a twenty year sentence spent in jail, not used for political purposes, and as often as not, overturned for one reason or another, with plenty of time for repentance.

Then again, I sincerely think that the Pope wasn’t talking about the US death sentences.


24 posted on 03/20/2015 1:30:34 PM PDT by kingu (Everything starts with slashing the size and scope of the federal government.)
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For Christians, he says, all life is sacred because every one of us is created by God, who does not want to punish one murder with another, but rather wishes to see the murderer repent.

What a moron. He is equating 'murder' with 'justice'. The murderer is executed for the sake of "JUSTICE". This Pope is anathema.

26 posted on 03/20/2015 1:34:38 PM PDT by rjsimmon (The Tree of Liberty Thirsts)
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He should take that up with his Boss.


28 posted on 03/20/2015 1:35:55 PM PDT by D Rider
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What about the victims? It seems that no one cares about them.


29 posted on 03/20/2015 1:39:10 PM PDT by Parmy
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Death sentences, he insists, imply cruel and degrading treatment, as well as the torturous anguish of a lengthy waiting period before the execution, which often leads to sickness or insanity.

Simple solution: Give a fixed two-week period between conviction and execution with the full availability of a Catholic priest during that period.

30 posted on 03/20/2015 1:40:55 PM PDT by ebb tide (We have a rogue curia in Rome.)
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None of Hitler’s henchmen deserved to be hanged? None of the Boka Haram murdering and raping children deserve death? None of the filthy ISIS beheaders deserve death? The Newtown shooter would have not deserved death? What about the Columbine killers? What about the Tsarnaev’s of Boston Marathon bombing fame?

If you value the lives of people, you should approve of a death sentence for those who unjustly and cruelly take the lives of others.


32 posted on 03/20/2015 1:41:16 PM PDT by RatRipper (Obama has made me the slave of sluggards.)
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