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To: Trapped Behind Enemy Lines
TBEL, if you truly want to understand what you have misconstrued in your Catholic faith, I will at this point refer you to someone who can explain better: Dr Scott Hahn. On the subject in question, I recommend Swear to God: The Promise and Power of the Sacraments.

May God bless you.

162 posted on 03/18/2015 7:44:12 PM PDT by pgyanke (Republicans get in trouble when not living up to their principles. Democrats... when they do.)
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To: pgyanke
Swear to God: The Promise and Power of the Sacraments.

Not to mention the Novenas that NEVER fail...

183 posted on 03/19/2015 6:14:34 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: pgyanke

Thanks for your kind words and your referral to some of these authors. I deeply appreciate it. However, I think it would be nice if some individuals including yourself could make the supporting arguments for various doctrines, practices, and beliefs yourselves. I have read many books on Church History, religion, theology, etc. from both Catholic and non-Catholic authors alike. If you study the Church’s policy of compulsory clerical celibacy for example, you will see that the policy was not always in place and it took the Church many centuries to implement and institutionalize it. You will also note there is no requirement for compulsory clerical celibacy in the Bible, and quite to the contrary, priest were married men in the Bible and they were expected to be married. Fact is Church policies, rules, regulations, dogma, doctrines, discipline, rituals, and liturgy are always subject to change and modification. Look no further than Vatican II for proof of that. It doesn’t matter whether you agree with Vatican II or not. Fact remains the Church adopted and implemented and significantly changed a number of its rules and policies. The Bible always remains the word of God, but Church policies are always subject to change.


250 posted on 03/19/2015 10:19:18 AM PDT by Trapped Behind Enemy Lines
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To: pgyanke
: Dr Scott Hahn.

What desperation. No multitude of words from this sophist will provide what Scripture does not, and the fact remains that neither you nor him can even find NT pastors/ presbuteros (elders) ever even titled “hiereus” (= priest, from old Eng. "preost"), nor them offering altered bread and wine as a sacrificial offering for sins, and for souls to consume in order to obtain spiritual life. This doctrine is another invention , which the priesthood flowed from.

364 posted on 03/19/2015 3:16:37 PM PDT by daniel1212 (Come to the Lord Jesus as a contrite damned+destitute sinner, trust Him to save you, then live 4 Him)
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