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Three Words Catholics Do Not Understand
Proclaiming the Gospel ^ | March 18,2015 | Mike Gendron

Posted on 03/18/2015 6:21:18 AM PDT by RnMomof7

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To: RnMomof7; Gamecock
Yep.. born, educated RC through college,active in my parish..then I met Christ..

If you would have spent 1/2 the time, while you were still a practicing Catholic, defending your true religion, as you now do trying to justify your VERY poor decision to leave her....you would be close to sainthood.

481 posted on 03/20/2015 7:39:08 PM PDT by terycarl (common sense prevails over all)
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To: editor-surveyor
The Holy Spirit speaks only to the individual elect, not to Satan’s Magisterium.

So, for 2,000+ years, the Holy Spirit has chosen to speak only to a handful of "elect" rather than the organized Catholic church which has encompassed BILLIONS of faithful Christians. That would be a mighty poor way of spreadingtheword of God.....just saying. .

482 posted on 03/20/2015 8:17:49 PM PDT by terycarl (common sense prevails over all)
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To: Resettozero
. First, clean your own doctrinal houses which appear to be divided.

Nope...Catholic doctrinal housee is in good order...there are, however, some misinterpretations of it...pay little attention to those...stick with what the Catholic church teaches based on YOUR thorough study of them......we're waiting!!!

483 posted on 03/20/2015 8:42:43 PM PDT by terycarl (common sense prevails over all)
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To: CynicalBear
>>If the Church has the authority of binding and loosing<<

They don't so there goes that whole idea.

You take a direct quote from the bible and somehow twist it to mean that YOU decide what is truth.......AMAZING

484 posted on 03/20/2015 8:48:03 PM PDT by terycarl (common sense prevails over all)
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To: CynicalBear
Until Catholics can show another infallible source for what the apostles taught the Catholic Church will be considered accursed for teaching another gospel.

ANOTHER ONE??? one isn't enough for you???Sheeesh

485 posted on 03/20/2015 8:51:22 PM PDT by terycarl (common sense prevails over all)
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To: Trapped Behind Enemy Lines
So I’m the one in agreement with Pope Francis and St. Paul-—and I am branded questioning my faith.

DO NOT PANIC WHEN REPLYING TO POSTERS ON THIS SITE!!!some of them have NO idea of what they are talking about and the rest will do almost anything to get under your skin.!!

486 posted on 03/20/2015 9:11:03 PM PDT by terycarl (common sense prevails over all)
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To: daniel1212
>>in order to recommend the new religion to the heathen, transferred into it the outward ornaments to which they had been accustomed in their own.<<

And that in direct opposition to God's commands.

Deuteronomy 12:30 Take heed to thyself that thou be not snared by following them, after that they be destroyed from before thee; and that thou inquire not after their gods, saying, How did these nations serve their gods? even so will I do likewise. 31 Thou shalt not do so unto the LORD thy God:

488 posted on 03/21/2015 5:59:48 AM PDT by CynicalBear (For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus)
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To: D-fendr

Neither one of them differ on what is required for salvation.


489 posted on 03/21/2015 6:06:43 AM PDT by CynicalBear (For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus)
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To: terycarl
>>You take a direct quote from the bible and somehow twist it to mean that YOU decide what is truth.......AMAZING<<

That wasn't a direct quote from scripture. No where does it say "the church has the authority of binding and loosing". Trying to inject a meaning that isn't there is what is ....AMAZING.

490 posted on 03/21/2015 6:10:06 AM PDT by CynicalBear (For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus)
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To: terycarl
>>ANOTHER ONE??? one isn't enough for you???Sheeesh<<

You haven't shown where the apostles taught the assumption of Mary.

491 posted on 03/21/2015 6:11:49 AM PDT by CynicalBear (For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus)
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To: terycarl; RnMomof7

Biblical Sainthood=repent and believe
Roman Catholic “sainthood”=work hard to live an especially outwardly pious life and if enough people take notice maybe, just maybe, you will be nominated for the title “saint.”


492 posted on 03/21/2015 6:56:28 AM PDT by Gamecock (Joel Osteen is a minister of the Gospel like Captain Crunch is a Naval officer.)
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To: CynicalBear

Thanks for reading it.

They differ greatly in their doctrines of grace and salvation and election and redemption and atonement and...

The subject is sola scriptura. My point is it doesn’t work in practice. If “Holy Scripture is sufficient of itself to be the final authority of Christian doctrine” and Holy Scripture is self-authenticating, perspicuous and its own interpreter - then the resulting doctrine would be virtually identical.

If you start with the same resource and apply the identical method/process, the results should be identical. If not something else is involved - it’s not sola - and/or your assumptions are false.


493 posted on 03/21/2015 8:29:45 AM PDT by D-fendr (Deus non alligatur sacramentis sed nos alligamur.)
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To: D-fendr
>>then the resulting doctrine would be virtually identical.<<<

Who says? Those differences are not affecting salvation. It's only the Catholic Church that ties beliefs to salvation not found in scripture. Whether someone believes once saved always saved or not does not affect what is required for salvation. That's why I asked you to show a difference that did but you couldn't.

494 posted on 03/21/2015 8:55:31 AM PDT by CynicalBear (For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus)
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To: CynicalBear
Those were definitely not pearls but an attempt to pervert the meaning of scripture.

False and, perhaps, malicious, statement; the fact remains that the Orthodox, Jews and Christians, pray for the dead from ancient times until now.

495 posted on 03/21/2015 8:58:19 AM PDT by af_vet_1981 (The bus came by and I got on, That's when it all began.)
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To: terycarl; Gamecock
If you would have spent 1/2 the time, while you were still a practicing Catholic, defending your true religion, as you now do trying to justify your VERY poor decision to leave her....you would be close to sainthood.

I am a saint.. made one by the work of JESUS CHRIST

496 posted on 03/21/2015 9:07:12 AM PDT by RnMomof7
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To: af_vet_1981
>>the fact remains that the Orthodox, Jews and Christians, pray for the dead from ancient times until now.<<

Not sanctioned by God they didn't. God has rejected and set aside those who go beyond or pervert His word. Saying they have done it "from ancient times" means nothing.

497 posted on 03/21/2015 9:14:23 AM PDT by CynicalBear (For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus)
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To: CynicalBear

If you start with the same resource and apply the identical method/process, the results should be identical. If not something else is involved - it’s not sola - and/or your assumptions are false.


498 posted on 03/21/2015 9:19:40 AM PDT by D-fendr (Deus non alligatur sacramentis sed nos alligamur.)
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To: CynicalBear
Whether someone believes once saved always saved or not ..

The differences go beyond OSAS..

Those differences are not affecting salvation.

Who is saved, who Christ died for, who is given God's grace.. It is inaccurate to say this does not affect salvation.

According to Arminianism: Salvation is accomplished through the combined efforts ofGod (who takes the initiative) and man(who must respond)—man’s response being the determining factor. God has provided salvation for everyone, but His provision becomes effective only for those who, of their own free will, “choose” to cooperate with Him and accept His offer of grace…

According to Calvinism: Salvation is accomplished by the almighty power of the Triune God. The Father chose a people, the Son died for them, the Holy  Spirit makes Christ’s death effective by bringing the elect to faith and repentance, thereby causing them to willingly obey the gospel…

Whether they fit one's definition of 'affecting salvation', the differences are significant, certainly enough to not result in "one Lord, one faith, one baptism."
499 posted on 03/21/2015 9:30:39 AM PDT by D-fendr (Deus non alligatur sacramentis sed nos alligamur.)
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To: D-fendr
How does whether one believes that it's man's free will that they accept Christ as their savior or that it's God working through them that they accept Christ as their savior affect the fact that they both accepted Christ alone as their savior?

>>the differences are significant, certainly enough to not result in "one Lord, one faith, one baptism."<<

Not in the least. They both have one Lord, on Faith in that Lord, and one baptism.

Once again, you fail to show how their differences affect salvation.

500 posted on 03/21/2015 9:39:54 AM PDT by CynicalBear (For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus)
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