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Three Words Catholics Do Not Understand
Proclaiming the Gospel ^
| March 18,2015
| Mike Gendron
Posted on 03/18/2015 6:21:18 AM PDT by RnMomof7
1/14/2015 8:04:57 AM
Three Words Catholics Do Not Understand
It Is Finished - Three Words Catholics Do Not Understand
The perfect, all-sufficient sacrifice of Christ that satisfied divine justice for all believers was accomplished 2000 years ago. Jesus cried out in victory - "It is finished." The work of salvation is done. The eternal debt for sin has been paid in full. No more offerings, no more sacrifices, no more priests! The Lord Jesus willingly died for mans sins to pay the debt that we could never pay. He Himself bore our sins in His body on the tree, so that we might die to sins and live for righteousness: by His wounds you have been healed" (1 Peter 2:24). Yet Catholics instead choose to trust in the sacrifice of the Mass, a blasphemous representation of a eucharistic Christ on an altar. They would rather trust the Sacrifice of the Mass as a sin offering to God rather than trusting in the one-time, all-sufficient, sacrifice of Christ.
Jesus appeared to take away sins once for all" by His sacrifice" (Hebrews 9:26). Through His blood God made Him the means of expiation (of sin) for all who believe" (Romans 3:25). Vatican II denies these sacred Scriptures by teaching: Sins must be expiated...on this earth through the sorrows, miseries and trials of this life and, a above all, through death. Otherwise the expiation must be made in the next life through fire and torments or purifying punishments (Vatican Council II). What a terrible deception to impose on faithful Roman Catholics who look to their church for the truth! The very reason and purpose Christ became man and suffered such an excruciating death was to expiate sin, once and for all, by His perfect sacrifice. How can any church, which claims to follow Christ, withhold this truth from its people and create in its place doctrines that nullify the Savior's finished work?
Roman Catholic teachings also nullify another accomplishment of Christ, the purification of sins. The writer of the book of Hebrews declared that "when He had made purification of sins, He sat down at the right hand of the Majesty on high" (Heb. 1:3). The apostle John also proclaimed that those who trust Christ are purified from all sin, by His blood (1 John 1:7). Vatican Council II states that purgatory is where "those
who have not made satisfaction with adequate penance for their sins and omissions are cleansed after death with punishments designed to purge away their debt. Jesus reconciled the world to God, changing its relationship with God from hostility to harmony. The sinner is reconciled to God when he trusts in Christ as his Savior. "It is in Christ and through His blood that we have been redeemed and our sins are forgiven" (Eph. 1:7). Being reconciled to God is difficult for Catholics to comprehend, for they have been taught the only way to made peace with God is through a life long journey of works--receiving the sacraments, going to Mass and doing penance. The only response to the accomplishments of Christ that will reconcile anyone to God is repentance and faith.
TOPICS: Apologetics; Evangelical Christian; Mainline Protestant; Theology
KEYWORDS: cross; expiation; purification; salvation
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To: DungeonMaster
> ...just a few of the many many reasons I recommend not going it alone.
I've been on the wrong side of this argument so many times. Meaning you're on the right side now? I sure hope so.
Doesn't Hebrews 10:24-25 defeat every possible reason for "going it alone"?
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posted on
03/20/2015 7:36:57 AM PDT
by
newgeezer
(It is [the people's] right and duty to be at all times armed. --Thomas Jefferson, 1824)
To: CynicalBear
Your injecting a meaning doesnt make it so. You did not answer my question with respect to your comment. Did you read, and comprehend, all of post 404 or simply comment on it ?
442
posted on
03/20/2015 7:37:48 AM PDT
by
af_vet_1981
(The bus came by and I got on, That's when it all began.)
To: af_vet_1981
I not only read your hard to read post but went to the source and read it there while also reading other relevant scripture. Your trying to make that passage read as if it’s condoning praying for the dead is nonsense.
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posted on
03/20/2015 7:45:13 AM PDT
by
CynicalBear
(For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus)
To: D-fendr
Nopers, not doubting God. As I said: my argument is that sola scriptura fails.Then my next question:
If YHWH does not change,
and if YHWH's words do not return to him empty,
and if YHWH has provided doctrine that HE calls good...
and if that doctrine is found in the ONLY document literally proven to be unchanged and intact (Masoretic Torah),
THEN what doctrine can trump it in authority?
444
posted on
03/20/2015 7:57:42 AM PDT
by
roamer_1
(Globalism is just socialism in a business suit.)
To: painter
Yes. I know. There are plenty of married priests. We have large number of married priests in my own archdiocese. Most of them converts from the Episcopalian Church. I see them all of the time. Orthodox priests are permitted to be married. Priests in Catholic churches in the Middle East and Eastern Europe are permitted to be married. There are lots of married priests. They do just fine. It seems that the Church’s policy of compulsory clerical celibacy is applicable to some, but not all. Another reason why the policy should be questioned, discussed, revised, and updated IMHO.
To: CynicalBear
I not only read your hard to read post but went to the source and read it there while also reading other relevant scripture. Your trying to make that passage read as if its condoning praying for the dead is nonsense.I assume "hard to understand" means you either did not read all of it, or it was too difficult for you to comprehend, since you then wrote The children of Israel refer to all those of the nation of Israel not just his sons," which point I had already made at the bottom. Yet lo and behold you write that comment ...
- If you look at the blessings for the children Israel, there are tribal references and yet there are also personal references to the actual sons of Jacob. All of them were dead at this time.
- Notice Moses asking, ie., praying that Reuben, who was already dead, should live and not die. His subsequent prayer that "and let not his men be few" is a clearly reference to the tribe. Nothwithstanding Reuben conspiring to sell his brother into slavery, he is also mentioned in Jacob's prophecy as having defiled his father's bed, both sins into death.
- If you look at Judah, "Hear, Lord, the voice of Judah, and bring him unto his people" can also be read to apply to Judah himself. Judah also had a couple of deadly sins mentioned in the text of Genesis.
In any event, did not lay my pearls out there for you, but for another.
446
posted on
03/20/2015 8:02:30 AM PDT
by
af_vet_1981
(The bus came by and I got on, That's when it all began.)
To: Resettozero
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The “good news” was exactly the fact that he was going to be scourged, and die. It was the keystone of the covenant, just as his actual death is the keystone of the renewed covenant.
This is all that the apostles preached, day in and day out.
The fact that it was the very center of the ancient scriptures proved to those that were cautious, such as the Bereans, that Yeshua’s was not just some kook cult, but the fulfillment of the promise of the covenant.
This is the reason that Paul had to be picked as the primary vehicle to bring the gospel to the descendants of those removed from the land for their idolatry by Shalmanesser, a millennium before. The Lost Sheep.
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447
posted on
03/20/2015 8:15:55 AM PDT
by
editor-surveyor
(Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
To: CynicalBear; Resettozero
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Your post is the very pillar of darkness!
It appears that you live under the delusion that Yehova didn’t reveal his gospel to the people that he had chosen for his name.
That is dark and deeply sad. It shows a misplaced resentment toward Yehova, that leads away from his plan for our salvation.
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448
posted on
03/20/2015 8:23:23 AM PDT
by
editor-surveyor
(Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
To: Chris777
to put it simply, and at a level that these folks can understand... you need to look no further than a recent pop tune...
“Haters gonna hate, hate, hate, hate.”
No reason to engage them, as their mind is made up, they believe themselves to be theologically knowledgeable, but generally their the same drive by folks who send in money to the clowns on TV who promise them happy lives and wealth if they just send more of their money to them.
To: af_vet_1981
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The time eventually comes when one must realize that shaking the dust from one’s sandals is all that remains.
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450
posted on
03/20/2015 8:28:42 AM PDT
by
editor-surveyor
(Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
To: Flying Circus
Paul was NEVER married? How do we know that for sure? We know that he was single towards the end of his life because he says so. If Paul was in fact a Sanhedrin before his conversion to Christianity, he almost certainly was married at some point in his life.
To: editor-surveyor
This is all that the apostles preached, day in and day out.
This they preached, and much more also that truly made the Gospel of Jesus Christ GOOD NEWS. (He did for us that which we could not do ourselves because the sin-debt is just too great. We abide (live eternally) by faith in Him alone.)
You are focusing on just one aspect, an important one, of what He finished while walking among us as Son of Man. He is much greater than you and I or any poster here on FR can comprehend; much greater than the Jesus you preach presently.
I'm not saying you are blind or blinded but I perceive that you are using modified blinders and are missing the whole of the Gospel of Jesus Christ.
To: editor-surveyor
>>Your post is the very pillar of darkness!<<
That's always the case to those who God has not given eyes to see.
>>It appears that you live under the delusion that Yehova didnt reveal his gospel to the people that he had chosen for his name.<<
Oh He revealed it to those who have been chosen for His name all right. It's those who think they are Jews but are not who can't see it and would try to put us back under the law.
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posted on
03/20/2015 8:35:39 AM PDT
by
CynicalBear
(For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus)
To: editor-surveyor
Your post is the very pillar of darkness!
It appears that you live under the delusion that Yehova didnt reveal his gospel to the people that he had chosen for his name.
That is dark and deeply sad. It shows a misplaced resentment toward Yehova, that leads away from his plan for our salvation.
Okay, then. You are free to roam on your own. Something is very wrong with your "vision" of Who Jesus Christ really is. We cannot walk together at this time.
To: newgeezer
Doesn't Hebrews 10:24-25 defeat every possible reason for "going it alone"? Not if your only alternative is the Mormon church or some grossly apostate church. But I don't have that excuse.
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posted on
03/20/2015 8:41:47 AM PDT
by
DungeonMaster
(No one can come to me unless the Father who sent Me draws him.)
To: CynicalBear
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No surprise that you would base your post on a passage for which you are apparently devoid of understanding, judging by your use of it in this instance.
Your apparent rejection of the prophecies of Hosea seems to be the problem.
“Back under the Law” is the Dispy’s dismal misunderstanding that chokes each and every one of them off from the gospel that had the potential to save them, had they heeded it.
:o(
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posted on
03/20/2015 8:43:14 AM PDT
by
editor-surveyor
(Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
To: Resettozero
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The roaming is all your own!
I’ll remain with the Word of God.
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457
posted on
03/20/2015 8:44:59 AM PDT
by
editor-surveyor
(Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
To: af_vet_1981
>>In any event, did not lay my pearls out there for you, but for another.<<
Those were definitely not pearls but an attempt to pervert the meaning of scripture.
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posted on
03/20/2015 8:47:56 AM PDT
by
CynicalBear
(For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus)
To: editor-surveyor
It’s faith alone in Christ alone which saves editor. Not following some law or work. There is no problem in understanding that for those who God has given the eyes to see.
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posted on
03/20/2015 8:52:38 AM PDT
by
CynicalBear
(For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus)
To: editor-surveyor
Intellect frequently can mislead one into believing that it takes much more than the attitude of a young child simply coming to Jesus Christ in complete trust and faith in Him.
My intellect had to be humbled completely to God’s true wisdom before I could see.
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