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Three Words Catholics Do Not Understand
Proclaiming the Gospel ^
| March 18,2015
| Mike Gendron
Posted on 03/18/2015 6:21:18 AM PDT by RnMomof7
1/14/2015 8:04:57 AM
Three Words Catholics Do Not Understand
It Is Finished - Three Words Catholics Do Not Understand
The perfect, all-sufficient sacrifice of Christ that satisfied divine justice for all believers was accomplished 2000 years ago. Jesus cried out in victory - "It is finished." The work of salvation is done. The eternal debt for sin has been paid in full. No more offerings, no more sacrifices, no more priests! The Lord Jesus willingly died for mans sins to pay the debt that we could never pay. He Himself bore our sins in His body on the tree, so that we might die to sins and live for righteousness: by His wounds you have been healed" (1 Peter 2:24). Yet Catholics instead choose to trust in the sacrifice of the Mass, a blasphemous representation of a eucharistic Christ on an altar. They would rather trust the Sacrifice of the Mass as a sin offering to God rather than trusting in the one-time, all-sufficient, sacrifice of Christ.
Jesus appeared to take away sins once for all" by His sacrifice" (Hebrews 9:26). Through His blood God made Him the means of expiation (of sin) for all who believe" (Romans 3:25). Vatican II denies these sacred Scriptures by teaching: Sins must be expiated...on this earth through the sorrows, miseries and trials of this life and, a above all, through death. Otherwise the expiation must be made in the next life through fire and torments or purifying punishments (Vatican Council II). What a terrible deception to impose on faithful Roman Catholics who look to their church for the truth! The very reason and purpose Christ became man and suffered such an excruciating death was to expiate sin, once and for all, by His perfect sacrifice. How can any church, which claims to follow Christ, withhold this truth from its people and create in its place doctrines that nullify the Savior's finished work?
Roman Catholic teachings also nullify another accomplishment of Christ, the purification of sins. The writer of the book of Hebrews declared that "when He had made purification of sins, He sat down at the right hand of the Majesty on high" (Heb. 1:3). The apostle John also proclaimed that those who trust Christ are purified from all sin, by His blood (1 John 1:7). Vatican Council II states that purgatory is where "those
who have not made satisfaction with adequate penance for their sins and omissions are cleansed after death with punishments designed to purge away their debt. Jesus reconciled the world to God, changing its relationship with God from hostility to harmony. The sinner is reconciled to God when he trusts in Christ as his Savior. "It is in Christ and through His blood that we have been redeemed and our sins are forgiven" (Eph. 1:7). Being reconciled to God is difficult for Catholics to comprehend, for they have been taught the only way to made peace with God is through a life long journey of works--receiving the sacraments, going to Mass and doing penance. The only response to the accomplishments of Christ that will reconcile anyone to God is repentance and faith.
TOPICS: Apologetics; Evangelical Christian; Mainline Protestant; Theology
KEYWORDS: cross; expiation; purification; salvation
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To: Resettozero
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>> “All Torah all the time is what He taught?” <<
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What else can you find that he taught?
What book might it be found in?
It just is not there to be found.
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421
posted on
03/19/2015 6:49:54 PM PDT
by
editor-surveyor
(Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
To: editor-surveyor
How can we walk as he walked unless we keep his Torah as he did?
A Christian abides in Christ and not independently from Him. A believer's life, now and forever, is assured in Christ and confirmed by the seal of the Holy Spirit upon us. We are reconciled to God the Father not by keeping the Law perfectly but because Jesus of Nazareth DID and because of our unmerited gift of Grace enabling those who are called and chosen to believe in and faithfully follow Jesus Christ all of our days.
Surely you know these things and more than these, e-s. Why are you so enthralled by the desire to fulfill Torah when, if you disobey one jot or one tittle, you are not saved by the Law?
Why would you want to trade down from what God has freely given those who are born of the Spirit and walk by faith in and through Lord Jesus Christ, Son of the living God, and our only Savior?
To: editor-surveyor
What else can you find that he taught?
A great deal more than we should keep the Law as He did to be saved from our sins.
It's a gift, e-s. Not everyone wants it and I can no longer understand why. Love of one's life and of one's sinfulness is the only explanation I have.
To: daniel1212
It always comes down to “authority”... ask where they got that “authority from
To: pgyanke
Yes, salvation is free and easy.
Nobody ever attained salvation by dying for their *faith*.
425
posted on
03/19/2015 7:42:26 PM PDT
by
metmom
(...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
To: Flying Circus
In a time when polygamy was common St. Paul was saying that bishops should not have more than one wife. To interpret it that they MUST have a wife would be contradictory Jesus words in Matthew 17 and Pauls own words in 1 Corinthians 7. Also Jesus was never married, and, for at least a part of his ministry, neither was Paul so by the more restrictive reading neither would be eligible to be a bishop and as Bishops are inheritors of the Apostles, so Paul would have to rank as a bishop- an inherent contradiction to the interpretation.So, you decide to rely on man's failed wisdom instead of the written words of God...
In Mat. 17 and 1Cor 7 members of the clergy were not being addressed...
And while bishops are not to have more than one wife at a time, they are to have at least one wife, children and a stable family...You forgot to mention that...
There is no biblical indication that Paul was never married and had a family...And it doesn't matter...Neither Jesus nor Paul were bishops...
426
posted on
03/19/2015 8:01:04 PM PDT
by
Iscool
To: Iscool
There is no biblical indication that Paul was never married and had a family...And it doesn't matter...Neither Jesus nor Paul were bishops...
You're correct in saying it doesn't matter about Paul as far as this idea of marriage is concerned.
As a prized pupil of Gamaliel, Saul of Tarsus likely was a member of the Sanhedrin since he was a Pharisee. Qualification for membership in the Sanhedrin required that the member be married. Or so it goes.
To: Resettozero
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You discount what all of the apostles preached!
You deny what Yeshua preached, in favor of imaginary stuff that you can't even point to falsely.
Torah is the only thing there is to preach.
Paul speaking of those that fell in the wilderness after leaving Egypt:
Hebrews 3
[8] Harden not your hearts, as in the provocation, in the day of temptation in the wilderness:
[9] When your fathers tempted me, proved me, and saw my works forty years.
[10] Wherefore I was grieved with that generation, and said, They do alway err in their heart; and they have not known my ways.
[11] So I sware in my wrath, They shall not enter into my rest.)
[12] Take heed, brethren, lest there be in any of you an evil heart of unbelief, in departing from the living God.
[13] But exhort one another daily, while it is called To day; lest any of you be hardened through the deceitfulness of sin.
[14] For we are made partakers of Christ, if we hold the beginning of our confidence stedfast unto the end;
[15] While it is said, To day if ye will hear his voice, harden not your hearts, as in the provocation.
[16] For some, when they had heard, did provoke: howbeit not all that came out of Egypt by Moses.
[17] But with whom was he grieved forty years? was it not with them that had sinned, whose carcases fell in the wilderness?
[18] And to whom sware he that they should not enter into his rest, but to them that believed not?
[19] So we see that they could not enter in because of unbelief.
Hebrews.4
[1] Let us therefore fear, lest, a promise being left us of entering into his rest, any of you should seem to come short of it.
[2] For unto us was the gospel preached, as well as unto them: but the word preached did not profit them, not being mixed with faith in them that heard it.
[3] For we which have believed do enter into rest, as he said, As I have sworn in my wrath, if they shall enter into my rest: although the works were finished from the foundation of the world.
[4] For he spake in a certain place of the seventh day on this wise, And God did rest the seventh day from all his works.
[5] And in this place again, If they shall enter into my rest.
[6] Seeing therefore it remaineth that some must enter therein, and they to whom it was first preached entered not in because of unbelief:
[7] Again, he limiteth a certain day, saying in David, To day, after so long a time; as it is said, To day if ye will hear his voice, harden not your hearts.
Paul plainly states that it was the Gospel that was preached by Moses in the wilderness. The same gospel that he preached to the Lost Sheep.
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428
posted on
03/19/2015 9:12:34 PM PDT
by
editor-surveyor
(Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
To: G Larry
As for Praying for the Dead, it IS Scriptural. Which is simply another argument by assertion, by which Rcs comfort themselves. You can quote the apocryphal 2Mac. 12, but which proves too much, as that teaches presenting offerings for those who died because of moral sin, for which there is not hope according to Rome. Thus the special pleading that RCs must resort to, that maybe they repented though God killed them because of their idolatry.
429
posted on
03/19/2015 9:56:47 PM PDT
by
daniel1212
(Come to the Lord Jesus as a contrite damned+destitute sinner, trust Him to save you, then live 4 Him)
To: RnMomof7
It always comes down to authority... ask where they got that authority from Indeed, i have many time, hardly even with a reply once they understand the question and perhaps realize where it leads.
430
posted on
03/19/2015 10:07:05 PM PDT
by
daniel1212
(Come to the Lord Jesus as a contrite damned+destitute sinner, trust Him to save you, then live 4 Him)
To: af_vet_1981
There are almost two million Torah observant (Orthodox) Jews in the world today that observe the Mourner's Kaddish, your gainsaying of this fact notwithstanding. Jews can follow Torah even when there is no temple made of hands.
Can you point out the Mourner's Kaddish in Torah? No. The prayer is almost 2,000 years old and the Torah is roughly another 2,000 years earlier.
The Torah requires blood atonement for the high priest and then the high priest offering for the nation. Without a temple or the ark of the covenant there is no means for atonement for sins in accordance with Torah. But we know this as Christians.
431
posted on
03/20/2015 12:53:08 AM PDT
by
redleghunter
(In the beginning, God created the heavens and the earth (Gen. 1:1))
To: af_vet_1981; painter
What an incredible stretch that was. Moses was praying for the children of Israel.
432
posted on
03/20/2015 5:38:46 AM PDT
by
CynicalBear
(For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus)
To: Flying Circus; Trapped Behind Enemy Lines
>>To interpret it that they MUST have a wife would be contradictory Jesus words in Matthew 17 and Pauls own words in 1 Corinthians 7.<<
Why do Catholics always try that canard as if the passage doesn't go on to say that they must have their children in subjection? 1 Timothy 3:2 A bishop then must be blameless, the husband of one wife, vigilant, sober, of good behaviour, given to hospitality, apt to teach; 4 Not given to wine, no striker, not greedy of filthy lucre; but patient, not a brawler, not covetous; 5 One that ruleth well his own house, having his children in subjection with all gravity;
As well for deacons.
1 Timothy 3:12 Let the deacons be the husbands of one wife, ruling their children and their own houses well.
Neither Matthew 17 nor 1 Corinthians 7 talk about church leadership.
433
posted on
03/20/2015 6:02:26 AM PDT
by
CynicalBear
(For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus)
To: editor-surveyor; Resettozero
There are many problems with your preaching the law.
1 John 2:7 Brethren, I write no new commandment unto you, but an old commandment which ye had from the beginning. The old commandment is the word which ye have heard from the beginning. 8 Again, a new commandment I write unto you, which thing is true in him and in you: because the darkness is past, and the true light now shineth.
Your preaching the law contradicts scripture and the New Covenant. Get out of the darkness of the past.
434
posted on
03/20/2015 6:13:27 AM PDT
by
CynicalBear
(For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus)
To: CynicalBear
What an incredible stretch that was. Moses was praying for the children of Israel. These are the sons of Israel; Reuben, Simeon, Levi, and Judah, Issachar, and Zebulun, Dan, Joseph, and Benjamin, Naphtali, Gad, and Asher.
First Chronicles, Catholic chapter two, Protestant verses one to two,
as authorized, but not authored, by King James
435
posted on
03/20/2015 6:20:30 AM PDT
by
af_vet_1981
(The bus came by and I got on, That's when it all began.)
To: af_vet_1981
The “children of Israel” refer to all those of the nation of Israel not just his sons.
436
posted on
03/20/2015 6:30:22 AM PDT
by
CynicalBear
(For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus)
To: editor-surveyor
Paul plainly states that it was the Gospel that was preached by Moses in the wilderness. The same gospel that he preached to the Lost Sheep.
If the Good News was the old news of the Torah, then why did Jesus have to die?
You seem caught up in your belief system the same way cult members often are. And there's no love evident in the gospel you're preaching.
Bad seed has been planted somehow. Please re-consider your present religion.
To: editor-surveyor
You discount what all of the apostles preached!
And your pipe of understanding my posts is clogged.
To: CynicalBear
The children of Israel refer to all those of the nation of Israel not just his sons.Did you read, and comprehend, all of post 404 or simply comment on it ? He answered them, I have told you already, and ye did not hear: wherefore would ye hear it again? will ye also be his disciples?
John, Catholic chapter nine, Protestant verse twenty seven
439
posted on
03/20/2015 7:09:11 AM PDT
by
af_vet_1981
(The bus came by and I got on, That's when it all began.)
To: af_vet_1981
Your injecting a meaning doesn’t make it so.
440
posted on
03/20/2015 7:25:57 AM PDT
by
CynicalBear
(For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus)
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