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Three Words Catholics Do Not Understand
Proclaiming the Gospel ^ | March 18,2015 | Mike Gendron

Posted on 03/18/2015 6:21:18 AM PDT by RnMomof7

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To: pgyanke; RnMomof7; CynicalBear; metmom; Elsie

I posted - “... you’ve posted many condescending comments on this thread.”

You posted - “Example?”


You posted at post #7 of THIS THREAD!

Protest-ants... you are well named. This board is becoming a 24 hour protest against the Church. It’s tedious, your arguments are infantile and nothing is accomplished besides setting conservatives against each other. Besides that... good job!


Is this not condescending? I find your comments condescending and infantile.


161 posted on 03/18/2015 7:41:55 PM PDT by Rides_A_Red_Horse (Why do you need a fire extinguisher when you can call the fire department?)
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To: Trapped Behind Enemy Lines
TBEL, if you truly want to understand what you have misconstrued in your Catholic faith, I will at this point refer you to someone who can explain better: Dr Scott Hahn. On the subject in question, I recommend Swear to God: The Promise and Power of the Sacraments.

May God bless you.

162 posted on 03/18/2015 7:44:12 PM PDT by pgyanke (Republicans get in trouble when not living up to their principles. Democrats... when they do.)
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To: Rides_A_Red_Horse
Is this not condescending?

It could be read that way and for that I apologize. I was frustrated at yet another thread on this board that takes direct aim at the Catholic Church by "fellow" Christians. If you look down the list of posts by Catholics on this board, you will find mostly posts of faith, devotions and explanations of the tenets of faith. VERY rarely will you find a direct polemic that takes direct aim at specific congregations... and certainly not with such derogatory language suggesting the domination is full of evil. Recently, there is a daily thread (or even more often) that does just that with the Catholic faith. It isn't a stretch to say that FR is feeling very anti-Catholic these days and that is sad because we are all supposedly on the same team (in conservatism and Christianity).

Your example is a good one and I repent of my snark.

163 posted on 03/18/2015 7:54:30 PM PDT by pgyanke (Republicans get in trouble when not living up to their principles. Democrats... when they do.)
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To: Gamecock

You are wasting our time.


164 posted on 03/18/2015 8:07:52 PM PDT by G Larry (Obama Hates America, Israel, Capitalism, Freedom, and Christianity.)
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To: editor-surveyor
Scripture says what it means when it is read.

So say men who claim it means all manner of different things. Why should your claim carry any more weight than another man's?

165 posted on 03/18/2015 8:09:29 PM PDT by D-fendr (Deus non alligatur sacramentis sed nos alligamur.)
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To: editor-surveyor
I only use the word.

If that were true, your posts would be devoid of anything other than Holy Scripture and we wouldn't be having this discussion.

166 posted on 03/18/2015 8:11:18 PM PDT by D-fendr (Deus non alligatur sacramentis sed nos alligamur.)
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To: editor-surveyor

and he posts!


167 posted on 03/18/2015 8:50:39 PM PDT by G Larry (Obama Hates America, Israel, Capitalism, Freedom, and Christianity.)
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To: af_vet_1981

Show me in Torah where prayers for the dead are offered?

150 psalms recorded and not one plea for the dead.

This is a dead issue.


168 posted on 03/18/2015 10:48:38 PM PDT by redleghunter (In the beginning, God created the heavens and the earth (Gen. 1:1))
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To: tioga; editor-surveyor
Google Jewish prayers for the dead...seems they pray for the dead to me, since they have set prayers.

Sure as I stated earlier those prayers are man-made traditions. You won't find them anywhere in the Torah. You won't find praying for the dead from the prophets. 150 psalms recorded and not one plea for souls in Sheol. None at all.

Jesus rebuked the Pharisees for their man made traditions. We should as well to modern day Pharisees.

Praying for the dead is a dead issue.

169 posted on 03/18/2015 10:54:44 PM PDT by redleghunter (In the beginning, God created the heavens and the earth (Gen. 1:1))
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To: SkyPilot

As a former Catholic myself, I concur.

Catholics claim that the church teaches salvation by grace alone, but that is not either historically or in practice what they teach.

They claim it’s grace and then make that grace conditional upon behavior and works.

It’s not grace any more then.


170 posted on 03/19/2015 3:29:57 AM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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To: pgyanke
What was finished? History? Salvation? How can either of these be finished when the work of the Church was just beginning... to teach, preach, and baptize the world?

What a beautiful example of what the author is talking about.

171 posted on 03/19/2015 3:31:42 AM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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To: pgyanke; CynicalBear
Please tell me how this process of adoption works.

You don't know what adoption is? How sad.......

Romans 8:14-15 For all who are led by the Spirit of God are sons of God. For you did not receive the spirit of slavery to fall back into fear, but you have received the Spirit of adoption as sons, by whom we cry, “Abba! Father!”

172 posted on 03/19/2015 3:38:30 AM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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To: G Larry

Your failure to recognize the truth is not my responsibility.


173 posted on 03/19/2015 3:40:25 AM PDT by Gamecock (Joel Osteen is a minister of the Gospel like Captain Crunch is a Naval officer.)
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To: Legatus
>>Would you be so kind as to indicate which type of Jew DOESN’T pray for the dead<<

The ones who follow the Torah rather than the man made traditions of the Pharisees. God never sanctioned praying for the dead.

174 posted on 03/19/2015 5:05:55 AM PDT by CynicalBear (For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus)
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To: af_vet_1981

“The sages decreed”! Better take a look at what Jesus thought of the man made laws that had been added to the Torah.


175 posted on 03/19/2015 5:19:21 AM PDT by CynicalBear (For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus)
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To: G Larry
There is no mechanism to prove your absurd statement.

Who was saved at the cross..anyone???anyone??

176 posted on 03/19/2015 5:19:38 AM PDT by RnMomof7
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To: G Larry

If you don’t like rebuttal then don’t post a false premise. And I’m not swayed by Alinsky tactics calling someone a bigot.


177 posted on 03/19/2015 5:29:21 AM PDT by CynicalBear (For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus)
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To: G Larry; Gamecock
>>She just asserted all Catholic Priests are pedophiles.<<

All of them ey? Do you always read into things not there? Besides, the office of "priest" in the New Testament ekklesia is non existent other than the priesthood of all believers and Jesus as the High Priest. The Catholic priests don't even qualify for any type of leadership in the New Testament ekklesia.

178 posted on 03/19/2015 5:42:07 AM PDT by CynicalBear (For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus)
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To: pgyanke; RnMomof7
>>That is because Christ has merited for us the ability to merit from God.<<

Christ only opened the door as far as Catholics are concerned right? Man has to work to merit the rest?

179 posted on 03/19/2015 5:46:37 AM PDT by CynicalBear (For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus)
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To: RnMomof7
Keep going, you getting closer and closer to coming back to the Catholic Cburch everyday.

Still praying for you.

180 posted on 03/19/2015 6:06:47 AM PDT by verga (I might as well be playing chess with pigeons,.)
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