Posted on 03/05/2015 5:44:45 AM PST by don-o
That man might become God On its surface this statement simply sounds blasphemous. Interpreted in a wrong manner, it would be worse than blasphemous. When read correctly, however, it is the very essence of salvation itself. To go to heaven from my childhood this phrase has been used as the goal of a Christian life. But, interpreted in its most common manner, it is only a Christianized version of paganism.
The distinction between these two statements can be found in their treatment of the interior life. The first, to become God, suggests profound, even transcendent change within a person. The second, to go to heaven, suggests only a change of location. It is this change in location that is essentially pagan.
It is essentially pagan, meaning that it differs in no way from the sentiments of the ancient Romans, Greeks and the Norse. For to become a God in their pantheon would only mean a change in location. The gods of the ancient pagans differed in no way from human beings, other than being bigger, more powerful and in a larger location. But they had their faults. They could be greedy, angry, vindictive, jealous, lustful, etc. And because this was so, human beings needed to be careful not to offend them or to provoke their envy.
For many people the statement, to become God, still carries a pagan meaning. It infers the acquisition of divine power and ability and somehow becoming a rival to the one God. This is the blasphemous meaning of the phrase and we do well to instinctively oppose it. We sometimes say of someone, He thinks hes some sort of a god, and we never mean it as a compliment.
But within the New Testament and in the long history of Christian teaching, there is a perfectly acceptable use of the phrase. In 2 Peter we read:
Grace and peace be multiplied to you in the knowledge of God and of Jesus our Lord, as His divine power has given to us all things that pertain to life and godliness, through the knowledge of Him who called us by glory and virtue, by which have been given to us exceedingly great and precious promises, that through these you may be partakers of the divine nature, having escaped the corruption that is in the world through lust. (2Pe 1:2-4 NKJ)
This is synonymous with concepts such as being transformed into the image of Christ (Ro. 8:29; 2Cor 3:18). But the right understanding of this divinization is not a transformation into a pagan deity, nor a rivaling of the One God. Indeed, the Fathers, with later theological precision, are careful to say that we become by grace what God is by nature.
But it is utterly essential to the Christian telling of the gospel, that our salvation should be understood in terms of transformation, of an inner metamorphosis towards the image of Christ. Salvation is not a mere change in location (going to heaven).
And this makes sense when it is considered thoughtfully. The problems within our existence are not rooted in location. I do not hate, cheat, lie and hurt others simply because Im living in the wrong place, and my re-location to some ideal paradise will not, in-and-of-itself, make a difference in what must be changed. If you put me in paradise right now, with no change in me, then Ill ruin the place for others in very short order.
I have observed on a number of occasions that parish Churches are either paradise or a colony of hell. This is true simply because of the state of the heart. Those who carry hell in their hearts make the world hell for all around them. Those who carry paradise within are the bringers of paradise. And so we pray when we approach communion that the Holy Gifts would be neither for our judgment nor our condemnation, but for the healing of soul and body.
That healing of soul and body is measured by the fullness of the stature of Christ (Eph. 4:13). Anything less than this is not the salvation promised in the Scriptures. In truth, if heaven is not dwelling in our hearts, then nothing outside of us will seem as heaven. And if hell is dwelling in our hearts, everything around us will seem like hell. In the words of St. Macarius:
The heart itself is but a small vessel, yet dragons are there, and there are also lions; there are poisonous beasts and all the treasures of evil. But there too is God, the angels, the life and the kingdom, the light and the apostles, the heavenly cities and the treasuries of graceall things are there.
This marks the daily struggle of the Christian the life of paradise versus the life of hell. These are not external rewards and punishments but simply ways of speaking about the state of the heart ways of describing what we are becoming.
It has been my experience that those who judge others are almost always inwardly condemning themselves. Those who regularly speak well of all and even excuse others have an inward peace. It is troubling that there are so many of the former and so few of the latter. Will there be many who are saved?
from my childhood this phrase has been used as the goal of a Christian life.
It is not the teaching of Christianity - to become God.
Right out’a the chute ... I was thinking in similar ways
Sometimes the flesh and ungodly behaviors come out of the mind, heart and mouth. This is the reason we need a Savior Jesus because flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom. Those who refuse Jesus salvation are just proud and deluded. Although we live righteous at times our salvation is not based on that.
Who is this guy? Is he a priest like Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson are Reverend?
The premise of man becoming God is false. Christians hope that they are worthy to attain Heaven; NOT to become God.
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Nah. That is a Roman Catholic thing too.
For the Son of God became man so that we might become God."80 "The only-begotten Son of God, wanting to make us sharers in his divinity, assumed our nature, so that he, made man, might make men gods."81
Catechism of the Catholic Church
It *is* the teaching of Christianity to become more Christlike.
To #6.
Let’s be frank: If a space alien or any of us today went back to ancient times (heck, even a hundred years ago) with a few samples of modern technology in functional form, we’d be seen as gods.
That’s not really the point of Christianity, though. It’s about “eternity”, which is something other than our current physical realm and more “real”. It’s why I very much like the example of “The Matrix” to describe this world that is made of coagulated energy and is, in essence, made from nothing.
One of the most revealing sentences in the bible is, of course uttered by Jesus. His twist of tense is interesting:
“Before Abraham was, I am.”
See #6.
Little different than what you just said.
Becoming Christ-like is just a little different than becoming God.
No, we do not. It's still God through us. Why does Catholicism always want man to get some of the credit?
The writer is an Orthodox priest. He is reflecting Orthodox theology. Thoughtful readers (and lurkers) may see some things to investigate, consider, meditate and pray about.
The usual suspects will be doing what they usually do.
Your not understanding it.. you do not become God in his power and authority... you change you heart to become like minded in your spirit and thinking
Who said that?
The writer addresses that. For the convenience of those who will not read the OP, here is what the writer wrote...
But the right understanding of this divinization is not a transformation into a pagan deity, nor a rivaling of the One God. Indeed, the Fathers, with later theological precision, are careful to say that we become by grace what God is by nature.
Interestingly, when you say, "It has been my experience that those who judge others are almost always inwardly condemning themselves", you are judging those who judge.
Posting sections of the Catechism of the Catholic Church?
How dare we!
“...It is the teaching of Christianity to become more Christlike...”
Yes - God equals Christ. We are expected to become Christlike. Since we are sinners, this is not 100% possible, yet grace gives us a boost.
A biblical example to illustrate this concept is to consider the temptations of Christ in the desert. He didn’t need to be tempted, He did it as an example for us sinners on how to resist the devil and become more like Him. (That is, more like God).
The fact that we are to try to imitate Christ is a given for Christians. (or ought to be).
Man doesn’t become God and it is not possible, and that is not the author’s point. At least some of us get it.
The OP has nothing to do with the RCC. But, that never has stopped some from spamming every single thread posted here.
Spamming an open thread?
Perhaps if those from other denominations aren’t welcome to comment we could recommend a designation that would prohibit just that. Maybe if something like the word “Caucus” included in the title?
In the mean time I know your indignation will also be directed at those who post inflammatory comments on threads started by Protestants. If you haven’t seen that happen take a peek sometime. For you to do otherwise would do nothing but render your protest invalid.
Have a blessed day.
Jesus finished the work on the cross. We rest in the faith of that salvation. As the Spirit changes us so are we. We cannot pretend religiosity.
We are who we are and hopefully we are His.
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