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To: Swordmaker

Except that it makes Jesus look “totally tubular.” The scriptures say he was no looker, but an exact look like this would have gotten him a distinct reputation as an odd ball, and middling on the “stature” scale to boot.

God wanted no idolaters and therefore didn’t give us any exact picture of Jesus. An anatomically exact portrayal of something that is stylized in the beginning doesn’t say anything.


48 posted on 02/28/2015 9:34:00 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: HiTech RedNeck
Except that it makes Jesus look “totally tubular.” The scriptures say he was no looker, but an exact look like this would have gotten him a distinct reputation as an odd ball, and middling on the “stature” scale to boot.

You have to remember that the Shroud as we see it today is a positive of the Shroud's negative image. What you actually see on the Shroud is not what we see in the photographs. What we see could only be seen in the past 117 years after Secondo Pia took the first photograph of the Shroud. Even photographs that show the Shroud as it really appears are enhanced to darken the image. . . which is very evanescent.


51 posted on 02/28/2015 9:44:58 PM PST by Swordmaker (This tag line is a Microsoft insult free zone... but if the insults to Mac users contnue...)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WNJPJ4JwHeE

Here is that video about the “Face of Jesus”.

As the researcher says near the end, the Turin thing isn’t an image - it is a database. From that data they created an image that is of a typical, normal human.

Of course, after being whipped and bloody, the image is not of a person to be looked upon and admired, or however that Bible verse goes.

As a scientist I think the shroud investigation stuff is interesting, and perhaps shows the miraculous nature of the resurrection. I think it is in the link where one of the investigators is a hot-shot physicist, and likens to the image occuring during a “singularity” - or a mini - Big Bang. (The shroud’s image of the back is not deformed due to the weight of a body on it - so the body is in mid-air).

Interesting thing to me, the Jesus that spoke everything into creation, also promised to make all things new. And His Resurrection is the means that He made all things new (a new creation).

As a Christian, does the shroud add anything, or take away anything from my faith? Naw.


53 posted on 02/28/2015 10:01:04 PM PST by 21twelve (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2185147/posts It is happening again.)
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To: HiTech RedNeck
Except that it makes Jesus look “totally tubular.” The scriptures say he was no looker, but an exact look like this would have gotten him a distinct reputation as an odd ball, and middling on the “stature” scale to boot.

The man on the Shroud is within the normal height ranges for Jewish men of 1st Century Jerusalem according to a census of male skeletons found in ossuaries in the area. In fact, Jewish men of the era at 5' 8 5 1/4" averaged only 1/8" shorter than the average American male of the 20th Century's 5' 8 3/8" height. Strangely, their 1st Century Roman conquerors averaged only 5' 5" in height. The genotype has been identified by anthropologists as what today is the Semitic type called "High Noble Arab" and about 40% of the native Jewish population of Israel is of that body and facial type.

54 posted on 02/28/2015 10:07:06 PM PST by Swordmaker (This tag line is a Microsoft insult free zone... but if the insults to Mac users contnue...)
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To: HiTech RedNeck
Except that it makes Jesus look “totally tubular.” The scriptures say he was no looker, but an exact look like this would have gotten him a distinct reputation as an odd ball, and middling on the “stature” scale to boot.

Here is a better photograph of the Shroud as it is. . . but still with image enhanced.

The closer you get to it, the harder the image is to see. . . from 15 feet or so or closer, it cannot be seen at all.

56 posted on 02/28/2015 10:11:06 PM PST by Swordmaker (This tag line is a Microsoft insult free zone... but if the insults to Mac users contnue...)
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