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To: Greetings_Puny_Humans
Well since you see so clearly concerning the historical cause-and-effect of God's wrath on Israel because of their failure to be Christians (excluding, of course, the fairly significant blessing and act of approval the Jews received from God with the re-formation of Israel itself in 1947, their winning numerous wars of survival, and their development of their country into a technologically advanced first-world nation literally in the middle of third-world hellholes that want them dead), maybe you can explain the beheadings and crucifixions of the Christian Copts today by ISIS. I mean, that's God's judgement for their sins, right? But what are their sins?

Wrong Christian sect?

38 posted on 02/28/2015 2:03:27 PM PST by Talisker (One who commands, must obey.)
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To: Talisker
Well since you see so clearly concerning the historical cause-and-effect of God's wrath on Israel because of their failure to be Christians (excluding, of course, the fairly significant blessing and act of approval the Jews received from God with the re-formation of Israel itself in 1947, their winning numerous wars of survival, and their development of their country into a technologically advanced first-world nation literally in the middle of third-world hellholes that want them dead),

So you're arguing that the destruction of Jerusalem and the holy temple-- on the exact anniversary of its last destruction-- something Josephus described was preceded by signs in the heaven and in the Earth, a comet in the sky in the form of a sword, the temple doors opening of their own accord and a voice crying out "Let us depart hence," etc etc., happened outside of the will and judgment of God? Without warning? Without reason? Without hope or explanation provided?

And as for today: God could restore your entire country all at once. Return your temple, your priesthood, give you a mighty prophet, and eradicate all your enemies so that they stop exploding in your schools or shooting rockets at your hospitals. Instead you share it with enemies, and most of your people either remain unconverted or practice superstitious forms of religion. You still are in silence and don't know what exactly is the truth.

41 posted on 02/28/2015 2:12:20 PM PST by Greetings_Puny_Humans (I mostly come out at night... mostly.)
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To: Talisker

The return of Israel (the Land) to Israel (the people) is prophetic. A blessing and or approval of God would be peace in that returned Land (state). There is none, no peace, no security till the Messiah returns.

let them lay hold of my protection,
let them make peace with me,
let them make peace with me. Isaiah 27:5

No peace with God whilst rejecting Him... His Messiah.

God will send the armies of the world against Israel and who will save Israel? Jesus, Israel’s Messiah!


92 posted on 03/01/2015 9:29:47 AM PST by free_life (If you ask Jesus to forgive you and to save you, He will.)
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