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1 posted on 02/28/2015 12:17:20 PM PST by RnMomof7
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History Ping...


2 posted on 02/28/2015 12:18:24 PM PST by RnMomof7
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“How much is your church like the ancient church?”

Well, if we are talking about Protestantism, then very little.

http://www.oodegr.co/english/biblia/episkopos1/perieh.htm


3 posted on 02/28/2015 12:21:51 PM PST by NRx
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“for a new generation of non-conformers”

Says a lot about the posts from this site.


5 posted on 02/28/2015 12:49:57 PM PST by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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Isaac Taylor wrote a fairly decent historical response to the movement to return to the 'Ancient Church', and the conclusion was ... be careful about what you think you are doing. Yes, the churches in the Book of the Acts (of the Holy Spirit working through the Apostles)are very inspirational -- but there is a common thread in comments made by Paul, and Peter, and John, and the Lord Jesus -- there would be wolves coming into the flock. In fact, in Paul's, Peter's and John's times there were already heresies spreading within the Church. John calls out 7 churches by name, of which 5 had pretty much gone off the rails at that time.
We need to keep God's Word as our guide, because following man (no matter how old) will get you into trouble.
6 posted on 02/28/2015 1:01:06 PM PST by El Cid (Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved, and thy house...)
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Excellent article.


8 posted on 02/28/2015 1:15:58 PM PST by NELSON111
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“Justin was born toward the end of the first century. He died in 165 as a martyr for his faith in Jesus Christ.

Around 150, he wrote a defense of the faith to the Roman emperor—called his First Apology—arguing that Christianity should not be illegal. In the course of his defense, he describes what a typical church service was like in his day.”

If I wanted to find out what the meaning of the Constitution as written was, and to find out how those who debated and ratified it would conduct government business, who would be better to ask, one of those founders or a Supreme Court Justice who served some 50 or 60 years later?

There are plenty of direct statements in the NT and plenty of strong hints in canonized Epistles to know a lot about the “faith once delivered to the saints”. That is the faith that I seek, and there are tens of thousands in the US who practice that faith, not some paganized or Gnostic substitute.

In technical language such people are called “primitive Christians”. The first hallmark of this group is simple: do they accept what the Bible plainly says or do they accept what some later authority claims it says.

A good first few questions would be to ask:

1) did the Church that met on the first Pentecost keep the other Holy Days too such as the Sabbath?

2) did the Church that met on the first Pentecost also observe Xmas and Ishtar, or would they reject Xmas and Ishtar as being pagan, syncretic, abominations?

3) did the Church that met on the first Pentecost believe that man had in innate immortal soul, so that without a savior humans would still have eternal life, just not in heaven?

4) did the Church that met on the first Pentecost know that Jesus had conveyed a body of beliefs that was not to be altered and they only had His permission to elaborate and explain, not to abrogate and nullify.

5) did the Church that met on the first Pentecost know that Jesus was indeed going to return to earth to sit on the throne of His father David? That this means the royal lineage of David must continue to the day He returns? (Luke 1:32, Acts 2:29-30!, Acts 15:16, Amos 9:11)

Not a single mainline Church can answer these questions in the affirmative. People who are committed to practicing the exact faith of the Church that met on the first Pentecost will.


13 posted on 02/28/2015 1:58:04 PM PST by theBuckwheat
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It sure sounds like the Protestant/Evangelical churches are following more in line with the practices of the first Christians than the one that claims IT is the same church Jesus established. Of course, getting them to admit it will be impossible!
17 posted on 02/28/2015 3:01:16 PM PST by boatbums (God is ready to assume full responsibility for the life wholly yielded to Him.)
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Very similar to my non-denominational church. Starts with songs of praise. Opening prayer. Gets into Scripture and time is spent ensuring it is given in proper context. We are urged to heed and follow the instructions/concepts for the topic. Lord's Supper (sometimes referred to as Communion) as part where the gift of His sacrifice is explained that some in the audience have an opportunity to ask for His gift and others can reflect on what He has given and they have received. Baskets passed with more songs of praise.

Pastor makes it clear that he is no different/better than anyone attending and that his primary purpose is to educate folks on Jesus and to make sure everyone understands who He is and why they should absolutely love Him. All this delivered in a regular speaking tone and interspersed with current societal examples. Pastor also made it clear that we will never be told what his political leanings are because the purpose of the Church is to get people to know, love, trust, and rely on Jesus.

23 posted on 03/01/2015 3:51:40 AM PST by trebb (Where in the the hell has my country gone?)
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But wait!
There’s more!

And it’s actually right there where the OP gets his snips. Leaves out this whole section. Now, why in the world do you suppose this whole section is IGNORED??


CHAPTER LXVI — OF THE EUCHARIST.

And this food is called among us Eukaristia [the Eucharist], of which no one is allowed to partake but the man who believes that the things which we teach are true, and who has been washed with the washing that is for the remission of sins, and unto regeneration, and who is so living as Christ has enjoined. For not as common bread and common drink do we receive these; but in like manner as Jesus Christ our Saviour, having been made flesh by the Word of God, had both flesh and blood for our salvation, so likewise have we been taught that the food which is blessed by the prayer of His word, and from which our blood and flesh by transmutation are nourished, is the flesh and blood of that Jesus who was made flesh. For the apostles, in the memoirs composed by them, which are called Gospels, have thus delivered unto us what was enjoined upon them; that Jesus took bread, and when He had given thanks, said, “This do ye in remembrance of Me, this is My body;” and that, after the same manner, having taken the cup and given thanks, He said, “This is My blood;” and gave it to them alone. Which the wicked devils have imitated in the mysteries of Mithras, commanding the same thing to be done. For, that bread and a cup of water are placed with certain incantations in the mystic rites of one who is being initiated, you either know or can learn.

http://www.earlychristianwritings.com/text/justinmartyr-firstapology.html


25 posted on 03/01/2015 4:36:49 AM PST by don-o (He will not share His glory and He will NOT be mocked! Blessed be the name of the Lord forever!)
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And this food is called among us Eukaristia [the Eucharist], of which no one is allowed to partake but the man who believes that the things which we teach are true


isn’t ironic, Justin Martyr would not allow the author of this piece Nathan Busewitz, nor the other followers of the 16th century tradition of men to share the Eucharist with the second century Church since he and the others deny the Eucharist is the Body of Christ.

no one is allowed to partake but the man who believes the things we teach are true.........

as A. Morrisette sang “isn’t it ironic, don’t you think?”


29 posted on 03/01/2015 7:22:56 AM PST by one Lord one faith one baptism
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Your stalker continues her infatuation with you!

36 posted on 03/01/2015 7:43:07 AM PST by Alex Murphy ("the defacto Leader of the FR Calvinist Protestant Brigades")
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Enter Justin Martyr.

Ya know he was Catholic right?

From Wikipedia: Justin Martyr, also known as Saint Justin (c. 100 – 165 AD), was an early Christian apologist, and is regarded as the foremost interpreter of the theory of the Logos in the 2nd century.[2] He was martyred, alongside some of his students, and is considered a saint by the Roman Catholic Church,[3] the Anglican Church,[4] and the Eastern Orthodox Church.[5]

43 posted on 03/01/2015 8:15:32 AM PST by verga (I might as well be playing Chess with a pigeon.)
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