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To: dartuser

Again ... He didn’t convert from study of scripture ... he converted by reading RC propaganda ... and the church fathers. Which in and of itself tells me his exegetical skills are nonexistent.


He has a thorough knowledge of scriptures. Otherwise, he would never have been allowed to be an Assembly of God youth pastor. In his talk to us, he said his purpose in reading Catholic documents was to prove the Church wrong. As he undertook this effort, he relied on impartial historical evidence to either support or debunk the Catholic writing. He found that many things he was taught about the Catholic Church were erroneous; that what he was told Catholics believe is not what Catholics believe. Even so, he still totally believed that he was a member of the Assembly of God. He kept telling himself, “I AM NOT A CATHOLIC.” So he went to Jimmy Swaggart Bible College to get back to his Assembly of God roots. He said that there was not a class he attended that did not attack the Catholic Church, with many things being said that were not true. Tim tried to ignore them, but he couldn’t help himself, he had to let them know the truth. Eventually, Jimmy Swaggart himself heard about this, and Tim was instructed to go to the office of a college official, who tried to convince Tim that he was wrong. After an hour and a half heated discussion, Tim was kicked out of his office. Tim said it was the darkest day of his life. Again he said: “I AM NOT A CATHOLIC.” But he realized he could no longer be a member of the Assembly of God, and knew he would become a Catholic. When he arrived home, his Mom and brother were very upset with at this news, and tried to convince him to come back into their church. Within 6 months, though, he convinced his brother to become a Catholic, and he is now a priest. In fact, he brought his whole family into the Church. So he evidently has some exegetical skills.


14 posted on 03/02/2015 5:24:58 PM PST by rwa265
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To: rwa265
He has a thorough knowledge of scriptures. Otherwise, he would never have been allowed to be an Assembly of God youth pastor.

Because he was a youth pastor has nothing to do with whether he can exegete the scriptures or not. Depending on the particular flavor of AofG, if you speak in tongues and you're baptized with the Spirit that is the main requirement for ministry positions. Many of the AofG pastors have no theological training at all.

Within 6 months, though, he convinced his brother to become a Catholic, and he is now a priest. In fact, he brought his whole family into the Church. So he evidently has some exegetical skills.

Your logic is atrocious ... he converts his family and that implies he can interpret the scriptures correctly?

I am not convinced that he studied the Bible and made his decision based on solid exegesis of the text. I have seen nothing yet that discusses any specific passages that 'turned the tide' for him.

Does he consider his spirit baptism in the AofG null and void? Was he re-baptized as a Roman Catholic? Did he consider himself saved as an AofG or not until he became Catholic?

I have seen enough of these 'welcome home' threads to know that those who go from Baptist, etc. to Roman Catholic have no Biblical foundation for their transition ...

Most of the time ... the RC interpretation of the church fathers comes into play ... not the Bible.

15 posted on 03/02/2015 8:29:14 PM PST by dartuser
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