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To: rwa265
He has a thorough knowledge of scriptures. Otherwise, he would never have been allowed to be an Assembly of God youth pastor.

Because he was a youth pastor has nothing to do with whether he can exegete the scriptures or not. Depending on the particular flavor of AofG, if you speak in tongues and you're baptized with the Spirit that is the main requirement for ministry positions. Many of the AofG pastors have no theological training at all.

Within 6 months, though, he convinced his brother to become a Catholic, and he is now a priest. In fact, he brought his whole family into the Church. So he evidently has some exegetical skills.

Your logic is atrocious ... he converts his family and that implies he can interpret the scriptures correctly?

I am not convinced that he studied the Bible and made his decision based on solid exegesis of the text. I have seen nothing yet that discusses any specific passages that 'turned the tide' for him.

Does he consider his spirit baptism in the AofG null and void? Was he re-baptized as a Roman Catholic? Did he consider himself saved as an AofG or not until he became Catholic?

I have seen enough of these 'welcome home' threads to know that those who go from Baptist, etc. to Roman Catholic have no Biblical foundation for their transition ...

Most of the time ... the RC interpretation of the church fathers comes into play ... not the Bible.

15 posted on 03/02/2015 8:29:14 PM PST by dartuser
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To: dartuser

Your questions indicate that you don’t know enough about Tim to draw an informed conclusion on his knowledge of scripture or exegetical skills. I really don’t know that much more about him than you do. During his talk, he mentioned that he studied the bible thoroughly as a Baptist and participated in many bible quizzes. He said the Assembly of God that he was part of did emphasize the bible, forming small groups that gathered weekly to study the bible. He gave examples using specific passages of his discussions with his fellow Marine and mentioned several of the subjects over which they argued. One example was Matthew 22:6, call no man father. He himself drew many Catholics away from the Church by starting with this passage and then going to other passages. Most of the Catholics that he converted did not know Scripture so had no response. But this Marine did. For every passage Tim referenced showing that we should not use the term father, the Marine came back with another passage showing where the term father was used in Scripture. He said they went at it with each other for over a year. At some point the Marine challenged Tim to read the Catholic documents himself; that if he was going to refute something, he should become familiar with what it is he is refuting. And it was during this study of Catholic exegesis that he found that it was more soundly based than anything he read from other Christian sources.

I do not know if you have ever looked at Catholic writings in any depth. I admittedly have not, but am reading more and more. I am also looking at writings by other Christians. Much of what Luther wrote was on target. Maybe you have studied Catholic teachings and concluded differently than Tim did. Which is fine. Many have. But if you haven’t, you really do not know the path Tim travelled, do you?


16 posted on 03/03/2015 3:49:53 AM PST by rwa265
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