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The Foolishness Of The Cross
triablogue ^ | March 08, 2008 | Dusman

Posted on 02/27/2015 9:51:00 AM PST by RnMomof7

The Foolishness of the Cross INTRODUCTION (1 Cor. 1:18-25)

I have had the pleasure of preaching the gospel open-air two times per month for about six years. Every time I preach to a group of God-hating sinners and hear their heckling, I am reminded of just how scandalous they think the gospel really is. Many have told me outright how foolish it is to think that a crucified Jewish man from ancient Palestine was the very incarnation of God Almighty and that by having faith in His death, burial, and resurrection, you can have eternal life. Yes indeed, repentance and faith placed in a crucified God-man plus nothing is a scandalous and foolish message to the mind of the modern unbeliever. It is scandalous because a crucified and resurrected Jesus is seen as grossly irrelevant to a postmodern mind bathed in human wisdom and foolish because the gospel message is so simple and its simplicity adds to its already ridiculous nature.

Paul was dealing with essentially the same problem with the divided Corinthian church. Because they had been thoroughly immersed into the worldly philosophy of Hellenistic dualism, they believed that salvation was an escape or a “getting away” from the world and the body. As a result, they sought human “wisdom” and “knowledge”, had an over-spiritualized view of the ordinances, and some even denied the physical, tomb-emptying resurrection of the dead at the end of history due to an overrealized eschatology (1:22; 15:12). Because some in the Corinthian church had imbibed man’s worldly philosophy and attempted to mix it with biblical truth, they believed that “salvation” consisted of experiencing a weird kind of ultimate, transcendent spirituality in which the “saved” were said to be presently living on a higher spiritual plane, far above the mundane material existence of the present age.

Because the anti-Pauline factions in the church saw a need to “examine” Paul since he seemed to be devoid of the message of divine wisdom (i.e., the Greek concept of sophia = Corinthian “wisdom”; cf. 9:1-19; 4:12; Acts 18:3), they further wondered if he was really a prophet of God (cf. 1 Cor. 14:37 and 2nd Corinthians) since he lacked the oratorical skills necessary for being a good Greek philosopher, especially when Paul didn’t match up to what they thought true divine wisdom should look like and sound like (cf. 2:6; 3:1; 1:17; 2:1-5). So, having already set up the contrast in verse 17 between the “cleverness of [man’s] speech” versus the powerful preaching of the cross, he further develops this contrast in verses 18-25. In those verses, Paul sets them straight about where God’s power, wisdom, and strength lies; which is not in man’s wisdom, but in God’s wisdom.

I. The Power of God’s Message (v. 18).

II. The Preeminence of God’s Wisdom (vv. 19-20).

III. The Strength of God’s Weakness (vv. 21-25).

TEACHING/APPLICATION

I. The Power of God’s Message (v. 18).

NAU 1 Corinthians 1:18 For the word of the cross is foolishness to those who are perishing, but to us who are being saved it is the power of God. – In this verse, Paul tells us that the cross of Christ is not something that someone may add human wisdom to and in so doing make it more superior. Instead, the cross stands in absolute, uncompromising opposition to human wisdom. Paul wants the Corinthian church to understand that the gospel, the message of the cross is not some new philosophy or new variety of human wisdom (sophia) coming onto the scene nor is it something that can be judged and put under the scrutiny of man. Paul says that this “word of the cross” can never be subjected to man’s standard of what greatness is, because man’s standard of greatness would empty the cross of its power by making it acceptable, tolerant, broad, wide, and shallow. Paul tells them (and us) that the true gospel “is foolishness to those who are perishing”. He wants the reader to understand that no one in their right mind would have ever dreamed this up as a way to be reconciled to God. A crucified Messiah is too humiliating and too much of a contradiction to man’s idea of what god should be. But of course, that is why man always strives to add something to the work of Jesus. It’s just too much for prideful man to handle the fact that all of the work has already been done on the cross and man can add nothing to it. For Paul, the cross cannot be changed, mixed with, or added to man’s philosophy and wisdom. To go beyond the cross by adding anything to it or mixing anything with it is to strip the cross of its power. There is a message that contains human wisdom and a message that contains the cross and the two are mutually exclusive.

“ . . . those who are perishing, but to us who are being saved it is the power of God” – In the context of chapter one, those who are perishing are the unbelieving Jews and Gentiles and the ones who are being saved are the same people. Those who are being saved only differ from those who are not because of ultimately one reason, God’s sovereign and gracious heart-regenerating power (cf. Ezek. 36:25-27). For God says in verse 21, “For since in the wisdom of God the world through its wisdom did not come to know God, God was well-pleased through the foolishness of the message preached to save those who believe” and in verse 24, “but to those who are the called, both Jews and Greeks, Christ the power of God and the wisdom of God.” Since Paul has set up the general antithesis between the “cleverness of [human] speech” and philosophy and the divine “word of the cross”, he now moves on in verses 19-20 to show us how God’s wisdom destroys human wisdom.

Questions for reflection: (1) What is Paul’s main thrust in verse 18? (2) How can the cross be emptied of its power? What are some ways that we subtly do this? (3) Ultimately, what makes the difference between the saved and the lost? What effect should this have had upon the Corinthians and us today? (4) In what ways do some within modern evangelicalism reject the power of God in the preaching of the cross and render it foolishness?

II. The Superiority of God’s Wisdom (vv. 19-20).

NAU 1 Corinthians 1:19-20 For it is written, "I WILL DESTROY THE WISDOM OF THE WISE, AND THE CLEVERNESS OF THE CLEVER I WILL SET ASIDE.” 20 Where is the wise man? Where is the scribe? Where is the debater of this age? Has not God made foolish the wisdom of the world? – The fact that Paul starts to seal his case with an appeal to Scripture by stating “for it is written” shows that he will sufficiently seal his case by arguing that what God says is the final word when it comes to the ultimate starting point for achieving true wisdom. “I WILL DESTROY THE WISDOM OF THE WISE, AND THE CLEVERNESS OF THE CLEVER I WILL SET ASIDE.” Paul quotes Isaiah 29:14, which in its original OT context warns those in Israel not to try to match wits with God (cf. Isa. 40:12-14, 25; Job 38-42). But since it is human nature to think that we can outsmart God, Paul authoritatively quotes this Isaiah passage to show that it has found its New Covenant fulfillment in defeating the pagan wisdom that had infiltrated the Corinthian church.

“Where is the wise man? Where is the scribe? Where is the debater of this age? Has not God made foolish the wisdom of the world?” – In verse 20, Paul is reflecting back to Isaiah, where in 19:12 Isaiah says, “Well then, where are your wise men?” Quoting Isaiah, he is asking the Corinthians “Knowing what God has done through the cross, where are all your hotshot wise men? Has not God rendered both your Gentile (“wise man”) and Jewish (“scribe”) wise men foolish and brought their human wisdom to nothing? Where are your philosophical prize-fighters (“debater”)? Paul says that the cross is folly to the perishing, but by it, he has made the world’s wisdom truly foolish. He hasn’t merely made it to look foolish, but actually has turned human wisdom into its exact opposite: foolishness. Dr. John MacArthur appropriately states in regards to verse 20,

Could the apostle have written anything more appropriate for our own day? Where have our great thinkers – our philosophers, sociologists, psychologists, economists, scientists, and statesmen – brought us? Never before has mankind been so fearful of self-destruction of been so self-consciously perplexed, confused, and corrupt. Modern human wisdom has failed just as ancient human wisdom failed, except that its failures come faster and spread farther. The outer life improves in a material way, while the inner life seems to have correspondingly less meaning. The real issues are not resolved.[1]

Questions for reflection: (1) Paul was known for quoting pagan philosophers to show that they attested to at least some of what he was preaching (cf. Acts 17:28; Titus 1:12). In 1 Cor. 1:19, why is Paul concerned with quoting Scripture instead of pagan philosophers? What does that tell us about our own method of defending the faith? (2) In light of verse 20, what types of people make up the “prize-fighters” for human wisdom in our day? (3) According to Paul, how has “God made foolish the wisdom of the world”?

III. The Strength of God’s Weakness (vv. 21-25).

NAU 1 Corinthians 1:21-25 For since in the wisdom of God the world through its wisdom did not come to know God, God was well-pleased through the foolishness of the message preached to save those who believe. 22 For indeed Jews ask for signs and Greeks search for wisdom; 23 but we preach Christ crucified, to Jews a stumbling block and to Gentiles foolishness, 24 but to those who are the called, both Jews and Greeks, Christ the power of God and the wisdom of God. 25 Because the foolishness of God is wiser than men, and the weakness of God is stronger than men. – in verse 21, Paul says that a true knowledge of God cannot come through autonomous human philosophy because any “god” created in the minds of man to suit man will always be a projection of man’s sinful, fallen mind and will be a source of pride and boasting. However, since God saves people only through the foolish message of the cross; a message found only in God-ordained apostolic preaching and not in human wisdom; there is no room whatsoever for boasting about the effectiveness human wisdom to save men from their sins. And so, the effectiveness and offense of the “message” preached (Gk. kergyma) lies not in the preacher, but in the content of the message, which is a crucified Messiah Jesus.

For indeed Jews ask for signs and Greeks search for wisdom; 23 but we preach Christ crucified, to Jews a stumbling block and to Gentiles foolishness, - Since unbelieving Jews were known for wanting miraculous signs to believe that something was of God (Matt. 12:38-40) and Greeks thrived on human philosophy and wisdom, Paul contradicts their autonomous sinful desire with the ultimate divine contradiction: the scandalous (Gk. skandalon), foolish message of the crucified Jesus. To have a crucified Messiah was a contradiction in terms; it was like having “fried ice”. To the Jews, you can have a Messiah reigning on a physical Davidic throne that has overthrown Rome, but not a crucified one. A crucified man was a cursed man, and it was the highest blasphemy to ascribe deity to One whom the Jews believed that God had cursed (Deut. 21:23; Gal. 3:13)! It’s no wonder that Jesus was such a scandal to the Jews. To the unbelieving Greeks, Jesus was nothing more than madness and superstition. The Greeks thought that it was crazy to believe in a God that got Himself crucified by His own enemies. What a preposterous, strange, and superstitious display of weakness! Its no wonder that Christ crucified offended both groups of people; and it still does today. This desire for a “custom-fit” Jesus is easily seen in Paul’s division of humanity into the two classes of Jew and Gentile, and it’s also a great illustration of the two great idolatries of mankind. Gordon Fee notes,

Thus the “Jews” and “Greeks” here illustrate the basic idolatries of humanity. God must function as the all-powerful or the all-wise, but always in terms of our best interests – power in our behalf, wisdom like ours! For both the ultimate idolatry is that of insisting that God conform to our own prior views as to how “the God who makes sense” ought to do things.[2]

Yes indeed, unbelieving people today desire the same idols that the unbelieving Jews and Gentiles of Paul’s day did, namely, they want a god that can give them humanistic power and wisdom when what they really need to hear is the powerful message of the cross, a simple message that they will consider foolish and scandalous.

[B]ut to those who are the called, both Jews and Greeks, Christ the power of God and the wisdom of God. - Now, since the omnipotent God is able to give the Jews plenty of signs and the Greeks plenty of wisdom, why would He leave them with something that both groups consider to be foolish? Paul’s answer is twofold: (1) The offensive message of a crucified Messiah was God’s ultimate expression of His “power” and “wisdom” and (2) this power and wisdom is only available to those of “the called, both Jews and Greeks”. This wisdom is reserved only for “those who believe” (v. 21), “those who are being saved” (v. 18), and they are believing and being saved because of God’s prior action on their behalf; they are those who are saints by God’s effectual calling unto salvation (cf. 1:1-2). It is those, and only those who will respond to God’s expression of wisdom in this crucified Messiah. It is only those who will seek, savor, hunger, and long for this crucified Messiah and it only those who will realize that this gospel is the “power of God to salvation for everyone who believes” (Rom. 1:16).

Because the foolishness of God is wiser than men, and the weakness of God is stronger than men. – The folly of the cross outsmarts man’s power and wisdom because God’s power and wisdom are revealed in the crucified Jesus. Because God’s wisdom and power are at work in the world through the preaching of the cross, it is the ultimate contradiction to man’s wisdom and power. To the perishing, the cross is foolish and weak, but it is God’s foolishness, and because of this, it is still stronger than anything man can think up or devise. In the cross of Jesus, God not only outsmarts sinful humans and makes their wisdom look stupid, but He also overpowers them by pouring upon them the unmerited grace of regeneration, forgiveness, and reconciliation and in doing so, He takes away their own self-serving strength.

Questions for reflection: (1) What kind of god does man create when he has the opportunity? How does this “god” become a source of pride and boasting? [v. 21] (2) Where should the effectiveness and the offense of the message of the cross come from? [v. 21] (3) Why is the cross considered then and now as the “ultimate divine contradiction”? [vv. 22-23] (4) Why was the cross a scandalous message for the Jews? The Greeks? (5) What does it mean for Paul to say that the foolishness of God wiser than men and the weakness of God stronger than men? How is this the case? [vv. 24-25]

CONCLUSION

God did not consult man and ask if we wanted a gospel that was suitable for the sign-seeker and the power-monger. We don’t have a “custom-fit” Jesus, complete with trimmings of worldly power, prestige, and success. Instead, God gives us a dangerous dilemma: Be saved by turning from our own wisdom and power and rest in His foolish-wisdom found in the cross of Christ, or do it our own way and perish. We’d do well to do it God’s way, because “the weakness of God is stronger than men” and that “weakness” brings us into “fellowship with His Son, Jesus Christ our Lord” (1:9). Such “weakness” in God is a scandal to those who think they are good people and have no need of forgiveness; but to those who are called and recognize that they are in need of His mercy, this is the good news that sets us free to follow him. And so, in the weakness of the cross we find God’s ultimate power, and in God’s powerful gospel, we see God’s ultimate wisdom. Would to God that we would all be humbled by the Sovereign and receive this message of eternal life.

[1] John MacArthur, The MacArthur New Testament Commentary on 1st Corinthians, (Chicago, Ill: Moody Press, 1984), 43.

[2] Gordon D. Fee, The First Epistle to the Corinthians. The New International Commentary on the New Testament, (Grand Rapids, MI: Eerdmans Publishing, 1987), 74.


TOPICS: Apologetics; Evangelical Christian; Mainline Protestant; Theology
KEYWORDS: jesus; justification; salvation
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1 posted on 02/27/2015 9:51:00 AM PST by RnMomof7
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2 posted on 02/27/2015 9:52:59 AM PST by RnMomof7
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To: RnMomof7

It’s foolishness to those who are perishing, to those who do not embrace God’s grace and salvation through the cross of Jesus Christ.


3 posted on 02/27/2015 9:56:36 AM PST by American Constitutionalist (The Keystone Pipeline Project : build it already Congress !)
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To: RnMomof7

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We are saved by the Cross and Jesus’ death on it.


4 posted on 02/27/2015 9:59:15 AM PST by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: RnMomof7

These same scoffers that can’t believe God would inhabit a man will readily accept that man evolved from small creatures all by itself and it just happened. They have far greater faith than I.


5 posted on 02/27/2015 10:03:04 AM PST by plain talk
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To: Salvation
For if, when we were enemies, we were reconciled to God by the death of his Son; much more, being reconciled, shall we be saved by his life.

— Romans 5:10, Douay-Rheims Bible
Just a clarification as to what purposes the death and resurrection serve.
6 posted on 02/27/2015 10:05:47 AM PST by Olog-hai
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To: RnMomof7

Even before the “foolishness of the Cross” ... it starts with the “foolishness of the Bible”. That’s where it all starts for all those who think it’s all foolish. It always comes back to THAT.

In other words, you can’t even “get to the foolishness of the Cross” until you pass through the “foolishness of the Bible” ... :-) ...


7 posted on 02/27/2015 10:06:42 AM PST by Star Traveler (Remember to keep the Messiah of Israel in the One-World Government that we look forward to coming)
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To: RnMomof7

That’s why I always tell Christians to start here ... below. I just posted this earlier, in another thread.

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We need to instill the following (below) into all Christians, and then the understanding that Creation in Genesis was indeed God’s handiwork in Six Days (actually longer than necessary for what God is able to do, if he wanted), and then for Christians to understand that, yes indeed, the Worldwide Flood did happen, exactly as the Bible says.

Get those three things down pat, and then Christians can go from there.

Chicago Statement on Biblical Inerrancy
http://www.bible-researcher.com/chicago1.html

Background

The “Chicago Statement on Biblical Inerrancy” was produced at an international Summit Conference of evangelical leaders, held at the Hyatt Regency O’Hare in Chicago in the fall of 1978. This congress was sponsored by the International Council on Biblical Inerrancy. The Chicago Statement was signed by nearly 300 noted evangelical scholars, including James Boice, Norman L. Geisler, John Gerstner, Carl F. H. Henry, Kenneth Kantzer, Harold Lindsell, John Warwick Montgomery, Roger Nicole, J. I. Packer, Robert Preus, Earl Radmacher, Francis Schaeffer, R. C. Sproul, and John Wenham.

The ICBI disbanded in 1988 after producing three major statements: one on biblical inerrancy in 1978, one on biblical hermeneutics in 1982, and one on biblical application in 1986. The following text, containing the “Preface” by the ICBI draft committee, plus the “Short Statement,” “Articles of Affirmation and Denial,” and an accompanying “Exposition,” was published in toto by Carl F. H. Henry in God, Revelation And Authority, vol. 4 (Waco, Tx.: Word Books, 1979), on pp. 211-219. The nineteen Articles of Affirmation and Denial, with a brief introduction, also appear in A General Introduction to the Bible, by Norman L. Geisler and William E. Nix (Chicago: Moody Press, rev. 1986), at pp. 181-185. An official commentary on these articles was written by R. C. Sproul in Explaining Inerrancy: A Commentary (Oakland, Calif.: ICBI, 1980), and Norman Geisler edited the major addresses from the 1978 conference, in Inerrancy (Grand Rapids: Zondervan, 1980).

Clarification of some of the language used in this Statement may be found in the 1982 Chicago Statement on Biblical Hermeneutics

The Chicago Statement on Biblical Inerrancy

Preface

The authority of Scripture is a key issue for the Christian church in this and every age. Those who profess faith in Jesus Christ as Lord and Savior are called to show the reality of their discipleship by humbly and faithfully obeying God’s written Word. To stray from Scripture in faith or conduct is disloyalty to our Master. Recognition of the total truth and trustworthiness of Holy Scripture is essential to a full grasp and adequate confession of its authority.

The following Statement affirms this inerrancy of Scripture afresh, making clear our understanding of it and warning against its denial. We are persuaded that to deny it is to set aside the witness of Jesus Christ and of the Holy Spirit and to refuse that submission to the claims of God’s own Word which marks true Christian faith. We see it as our timely duty to make this affirmation in the face of current lapses from the truth of inerrancy among our fellow Christians and misunderstandings of this doctrine in the world at large.

This Statement consists of three parts: a Summary Statement, Articles of Affirmation and Denial, and an accompanying Exposition. It has been prepared in the course of a three-day consultation in Chicago. Those who have signed the Summary Statement and the Articles wish to affirm their own conviction as to the inerrancy of Scripture and to encourage and challenge one another and all Christians to growing appreciation and understanding of this doctrine. We acknowledge the limitations of a document prepared in a brief, intensive conference and do not propose that this Statement be given creedal weight. Yet we rejoice in the deepening of our own convictions through our discussions together, and we pray that the Statement we have signed may be used to the glory of our God toward a new reformation of the Church in its faith, life, and mission.

We offer this Statement in a spirit, not of contention, but of humility and love, which we purpose by God’s grace to maintain in any future dialogue arising out of what we have said. We gladly acknowledge that many who deny the inerrancy of Scripture do not display the consequences of this denial in the rest of their belief and behavior, and we are conscious that we who confess this doctrine often deny it in life by failing to bring our thoughts and deeds, our traditions and habits, into true subjection to the divine Word.

We invite response to this statement from any who see reason to amend its affirmations about Scripture by the light of Scripture itself, under whose infallible authority we stand as we speak. We claim no personal infallibility for the witness we bear, and for any help which enables us to strengthen this testimony to God’s Word we shall be grateful.

— The Draft Committee

A Short Statement

1. God, who is Himself Truth and speaks truth only, has inspired Holy Scripture in order thereby to reveal Himself to lost mankind through Jesus Christ as Creator and Lord, Redeemer and Judge. Holy Scripture is God’s witness to Himself.

2. Holy Scripture, being God’s own Word, written by men prepared and superintended by His Spirit, is of infallible divine authority in all matters upon which it touches: it is to be believed, as God’s instruction, in all that it affirms: obeyed, as God’s command, in all that it requires; embraced, as God’s pledge, in all that it promises.

3. The Holy Spirit, Scripture’s divine Author, both authenticates it to us by His inward witness and opens our minds to understand its meaning.

4. Being wholly and verbally God-given, Scripture is without error or fault in all its teaching, no less in what it states about God’s acts in creation, about the events of world history, and about its own literary origins under God, than in its witness to God’s saving grace in individual lives.

5. The authority of Scripture is inescapably impaired if this total divine inerrancy is in any way limited or disregarded, or made relative to a view of truth contrary to the Bible’s own; and such lapses bring serious loss to both the individual and the Church.

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The actual core statement follows the introductory remarks (which are above). Go to the link for the core document!


8 posted on 02/27/2015 10:09:26 AM PST by Star Traveler (Remember to keep the Messiah of Israel in the One-World Government that we look forward to coming)
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Feeling Foolish? BEEP!


9 posted on 02/27/2015 10:11:58 AM PST by YHAOS
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To: RnMomof7

If I think of something as foolishness I tend to just ignore it. These people go out of their way to mock Christianity and Christians. Dawkins and his breed of professional atheists are especially obsessed with castigating belief. Why? If they’re right and this physical existence is all there is then what’s the big deal when someone else believes differently and lives a kindly life because of it. I know there’s a monetary gain when they can sell a book, but it takes some passion and a lot of effort to write the damned thing. The raw hatred that drips from their words comes from someplace and it’s not a good or healthy locale.


10 posted on 02/27/2015 10:12:34 AM PST by katana (Just my opinions)
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To: RnMomof7
Would have liked to have seen 1 Corinthians 3:19-20 too.
For the wisdom of this world is foolishness with God. For it is written, He taketh the wise in their own craftiness. / And again, The Lord knoweth the thoughts of the wise, that they are vain.

11 posted on 02/27/2015 10:13:18 AM PST by Olog-hai
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To: RnMomof7
Saved by a death? Raised from the dead? A stumblingblock to Jews and foolishness to Greeks.

And joining in that death and resurrection in baptism? Killing and burying the slave-man, and being raised a freeman to serve God? Dying to sin and raised to walk in newness of life? (Romans 6) A stumblingblock and foolishness to many today.
12 posted on 02/27/2015 10:14:16 AM PST by LearsFool ("Thou shouldst not have been old, till thou hadst been wise.")
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To: RnMomof7

Until people appreciate that Christ is God voluntarily stooped into humanity to lovingly pick up the burden of everyone willing to allow Him to (as many will refuse, deeming their pride enough to carry them), all this other stuff might as well be blah blah blah and it is pointless.

Great things come in small packages.

Our problem is our pride. The answer is God’s love.


13 posted on 02/27/2015 10:15:14 AM PST by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: RnMomof7

A Christ crucified and the message of the cross is a offence to those who trust in their own self righteious works and keeping the law.


14 posted on 02/27/2015 10:17:08 AM PST by American Constitutionalist (The Keystone Pipeline Project : build it already Congress !)
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To: katana

You said ... “If I think of something as foolishness I tend to just ignore it. These people go out of their way to mock Christianity and Christians.”

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NOTE ... “these people” are ALSO FReepers, and these FReepers don’t simmply ignore it ... they go OUT OF THEIR WAY to do exactly that, as you say.

It’s ACTUALLY going on with me, right at this very moment, with another FReeper, who CANNOT AVOID hassling and haranguing and obsessing over it! ... LOL ...


15 posted on 02/27/2015 10:23:15 AM PST by Star Traveler (Remember to keep the Messiah of Israel in the One-World Government that we look forward to coming)
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AND ... there are quite a few FReepers in that category, too!


16 posted on 02/27/2015 10:23:50 AM PST by Star Traveler (Remember to keep the Messiah of Israel in the One-World Government that we look forward to coming)
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To: katana

Some people do not want to live and let live. They want to personally dominate.


17 posted on 02/27/2015 10:29:07 AM PST by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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Yes, including a number of FReepers like that, too ... LOL ...

I’ve found that to be the case on several issues. The issues where there are FReepers who want to DOMINATE and not “live and let live” ... are on these issues that I’ve found out about personally ...

(1) About the Bible (it’s inerracy and authority), about Jesus and Him being the ONLY way to Salvation.

(2) About God having created everything, per the Six Days of Creation and not according to the Theory of Evolution.

(3) AND ... even on the subject area of Apple Products, and INSISTING that those who pick and use those products are IDIOTS and then, they go on those threads and HARANGUE all those other FReepers who use those products. It’s so amazing that I call them APPLE-HATER TROLLS (and there is a specific group of them).

THIS seems to be some sort of SICKNESS on the part of some FReepers ... :-) ...


18 posted on 02/27/2015 10:35:13 AM PST by Star Traveler (Remember to keep the Messiah of Israel in the One-World Government that we look forward to coming)
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To: RnMomof7

1Co 2:14 But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.

That “not” and that “neither” are absolute negations. “Can” is in the sense of being possibly able. “Know” is in the sense of to perceive or understand.


19 posted on 02/27/2015 10:37:04 AM PST by afsnco
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To: RnMomof7

Just to be clear: we’re ALL of us God-hating sinners. Except for the grace of God, we who profess faith would have remained in our sin.

Even so, we who profess faith must repent daily that we still “hate” God, insofar that we choose our our way, plans, desires.

As my dear mom was found of saying: “dear Lord Jesus, come and deliver us from this body of death...”


20 posted on 02/27/2015 10:44:30 AM PST by jonno (Having an opinion is not the same as having the answer...)
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