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To: RnMomof7

“Oppps not about Purgatory ,,,BUT THE FINAL JUDGEMENT and the eternal hell”

You fail again. I never said it was about Purgatory. I said you had been wrong BEFORE. Here: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/3259724/posts?page=57#57

Remember, two posts earlier in that thread you said: “One more “infallible” teaching that falls to scripture. Either God is omnipresent or not>”

And I showed that SCRIPTURE ITSELF SAYS man in Hell is AWAY FROM THE PRESENCE OF THE LORD (2 Thess 1:7-9). Not surprisingly you left the thread at that point and never returned to respond.

Your second mistake was to mistake a post about Hell for one about Purgatory even though I said you had been wrong BEFORE.

You lose. Twice.

And don’t ever forget, the BIBLE SAYS “AWAY FROM THE PRESENCE OF THE LORD”.

Also, not, here you admit that this verse is about Hell. That means you are now admitting that you were previously wrong with this entire thread: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/3259724/posts


56 posted on 02/26/2015 5:27:10 PM PST by vladimir998
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To: vladimir998; RnMomof7
>>You fail again. I never said it was about Purgatory. I said you had been wrong BEFORE. Here:<<

You did not prove her wrong. You admitted yourself that she was correct with this statement " God might very well be present in some form,". You cannot prove by 2 Thessalonians that God is not there. That passage simply says they will be "away from His face".

>>And don’t ever forget, the BIBLE SAYS “AWAY FROM THE PRESENCE OF THE LORD”.<<

Actually the Greek word means "face" or "countenance".

Your claims that she was wrong are in error as your statement above attests.

58 posted on 02/26/2015 5:44:46 PM PST by CynicalBear (For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus)
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To: vladimir998; CynicalBear
the eternal hell”
You fail again. I never said it was about Purgatory. I said you had been wrong BEFORE. Here: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/3259724/posts?page=57#57

Your INTERPRETATION is only valid if you deny the OMNIPRESENCE of God ...I am assuming this is not a PERSONAL interpretation ..cause Rome FORBIDS THAT :)

So please supple the INFALLIBLE interpretation from the MAGISISTERIUM

In the meantime lets look at the Greek in the meantime shall we ??

πρόσωπον

Transliteration
prosōpon
Pronunciation
pro'-sō-pon (Key)
Part of Speech
neuter noun
Root Word (Etymology)
From πρός (G4314) and ops (the visage, from ὀπτάνομαι (G3700))
Dictionary Aids

Vine's Expository Dictionary: View Entry

TDNT Reference: 6:768,950

Outline of Biblical Usage
  1. the face

    1. the front of the human head

    2. countenance, look

      1. the face so far forth as it is the organ of sight, and (by it various movements and changes) the index of the inward thoughts and feelings

    3. the appearance one presents by his wealth or property, his rank or low condition

      1. outward circumstances, external condition

      2. used in expressions which denote to regard the person in one's judgment and treatment of men

  2. the outward appearance of inanimate things

Just as on the Mountain, Moses could not see THE FACE of God...but God was there.. God will be present to those in hell ...and they will hate Him as much there as they hate him here ...

My God is a consuming Fire


72 posted on 02/26/2015 6:37:32 PM PST by RnMomof7
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To: vladimir998; RnMomof7

Actually she said nothing of the sort.

Time to stop playing with your straw men again.

Hoss


81 posted on 02/27/2015 2:37:07 AM PST by HossB86 (Christ, and Him alone.)
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