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To: pgyanke; Mark17
Like pgyanke asks, where were we commanded to pluck out our eyes? Sure, there was the suggestion that we might choose that course of action as a solution to our sinfulness... but it wasn't a direct command.

Actually in the greek, pluck out is in the imperative....the mood of command.

Now, do we believe Jesus literally meant for us to do this?

No, else there would be a lot of maimed Christians.

It is ironic that you are using your own personal interpretation of Scripture in these passages to fit your own need.

I think you recognize Jesus is using a parable to illustrate a point as He often did.

Now, if you keep John 6 in context, you will see He calls Himself the bread of life. A parable if you will. There are admonitions to believe. This is real...it is how we come to faith...through believing in him. It is how you "eat the flesh" and "drink the blood".

No where does this passage suggest the catholic belief of transubstantiation where the bread and wind become the actual flesh and blood.

If we take this literally, then the disciples should have been literally eating Him right there on the spot. that they didn't is telling. They understood what He was saying.

99 posted on 02/25/2015 6:29:49 PM PST by ealgeone
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To: ealgeone
Actually in the greek, pluck out is in the imperative....the mood of command.

Yes... but it follows a conditional; "if."

It is ironic that you are using your own personal interpretation of Scripture in these passages to fit your own need.

It would be... if that were true.

Now, if you keep John 6 in context, you will see He calls Himself the bread of life. A parable if you will.

Apparently, a parable only if it fits your view.

If we take this literally, then the disciples should have been literally eating Him right there on the spot. that they didn't is telling. They understood what He was saying.

What you say does not have to follow. That isn't an element of logic. The point is they didn't understand. That's why so many turned away. They understood His Words very clearly... they just didn't understand how it could be possible. The Apostles didn't understand it either, they just didn't leave. They trusted that what Jesus said would be and they stayed with Him because He spoke the truth... whether or not they understood it.

113 posted on 02/25/2015 7:21:49 PM PST by pgyanke (Republicans get in trouble when not living up to their principles. Democrats... when they do.)
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To: ealgeone
If we take this literally, then the disciples should have been literally eating Him right there on the spot. that they didn't is telling. They understood what He was saying.

Those that didn't believe Jesus were the ones who took his words literally. "How can this man give us his flesh to eat?' ...

Bottom line is that the Romanists align themselves with the people who rejected Christ and did not believe.

137 posted on 02/25/2015 8:39:14 PM PST by dartuser
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To: ealgeone; pgyanke; Mark17; CynicalBear
It is ironic that you are using your own personal interpretation of Scripture in these passages to fit your own need.

I think you recognize Jesus is using a parable to illustrate a point as He often did.

The whole Catholic meme about interpretation falls apart in verse 63 which they virtually ALL ignore, which is where JESUS HIMSELF explains the interpretation and that it's a metaphor.

John 6:63 It is the Spirit who gives life; the flesh is no help at all. The words that I have spoken to you are spirit and life.

152 posted on 02/25/2015 9:51:01 PM PST by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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