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Repentance
My Utmost For His Higest ^
| Dec.7,2014
| Oswald Chambers
Posted on 02/24/2015 2:52:23 PM PST by RnMomof7
Conviction of sin is best described in the words:
My sins, my sins, my Savior,
How sad on Thee they fall.
Conviction of sin is one of the most uncommon things that ever happens to a person. It is the beginning of an understanding of God. Jesus Christ said that when the Holy Spirit came He would convict people of sin (see John 16:8). And when the Holy Spirit stirs a persons conscience and brings him into the presence of God, it is not that persons relationship with others that bothers him but his relationship with God Against You, You only, have I sinned, and done this evil in your sight
(Psalm 51:4). The wonders of conviction of sin, forgiveness, and holiness are so interwoven that it is only the forgiven person who is truly holy. He proves he is forgiven by being the opposite of what he was previously, by the grace of God. Repentance always brings a person to the point of saying, I have sinned. The surest sign that God is at work in his life is when he says that and means it. Anything less is simply sorrow for having made foolish mistakes a reflex action caused by self-disgust.
The entrance into the kingdom of God is through the sharp, sudden pains of repentance colliding with mans respectable goodness. Then the Holy Spirit, who produces these struggles, begins the formation of the Son of God in the persons life (see Galatians 4:19). This new life will reveal itself in conscious repentance followed by unconscious holiness, never the other way around. The foundation of Christianity is repentance. Strictly speaking, a person cannot repent when he chooses repentance is a gift of God. The old Puritans used to pray for the gift of tears. If you ever cease to understand the value of repentance, you allow yourself to remain in sin. Examine yourself to see if you have forgotten how to be truly repentant.
TOPICS: Evangelical Christian; Mainline Protestant; Theology; Worship
KEYWORDS: faith; repentance; salvation
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To: verga; RnMomof7
Covenant=Testament.
That’s how I understood her comments.
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posted on
02/25/2015 10:37:45 AM PST
by
redleghunter
(He expounded unto them in all the scriptures the things concerning Himself. Lk24)
To: redleghunter
New Testament= New covenant
Old Testament= Old Covenant. That has been the teaching of every Christian group I have ever talked to.
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posted on
02/25/2015 10:41:21 AM PST
by
verga
(I might as well be playing Chess with a pigeon.)
To: verga
Yes. And when exactly did Christ institute the New Covenant?
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posted on
02/25/2015 10:44:12 AM PST
by
redleghunter
(He expounded unto them in all the scriptures the things concerning Himself. Lk24)
To: verga
New Testament= New covenant
Old Testament= Old Covenant.
That has been the teaching of every Christian group I have ever talked to.
That's right. YOU'RE right, verga; that is it.
Everything else is miscommunication.
Now, how about a nice nap...?
To: verga
Understand this is a point of view not a doctrine or dogma. This is typically used to provide additional consideration of the Old Testament as many Protestants tend to view the OT as a bunch of stories and songs but with very little relevance to the NT.
A short summary of this view point is that during the time of the OT, God’s presence via the Holy Spirit resided in the Temple. When Jesus was baptized, the Holy Spirit in it’s full power was withdrawn from the Temple and descended upon Jesus. Then Jesus conducted his ministry and was crucified. At that time, the Holy Spirit was released and descended during Pentecost.
To that end, the OT law was in effect until Jesus’s death. The law of sin and death was not superseded by the law of grace and mercy until the Holy of Holy curtain was torn, symbolically removing the separation between man and God, because God has left the temple and now resides in our hearts. As such, the Gospels are the history of Jesus ministry and if one take the view (thus my use of the term view point) that the OT law burden ended with Jesus death, they would then from a time line view, fall into the OT.
This view then used to educate others about Jesus being the head priest and why the numbers, stories, feasts in the OT were a foretelling of the coming of Jesus and how he fulfilled the sacrificial requirements and how that tied into Jewish tradition.
I should point out that at no time does this view change doctrine or dogma. It is just another way to drive a point home.
To: taxcontrol
the numbers, stories, feasts in the OT were a foretelling of the coming of Jesus and how he fulfilled the sacrificial requirements and how that tied into Jewish tradition.
...into Mosaic LAW.
Not to mince words.
(The words "Jewish tradition" can be misunderstood by one or more of our FR contemporaries.)
To: Resettozero
Sorry about the choice of words. I was trying to contrast Jewish traditions from Christian traditions.
To: verga
MY quote referred directly to another post and any one with an IQ over room temperature can see ... Oh I apologize.. I forgot who I was speaking to.Circumstantial evidence that there's a correlation between low IQ and short-term memory loss.
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posted on
02/25/2015 11:49:10 AM PST
by
Alex Murphy
("the defacto Leader of the FR Calvinist Protestant Brigades")
To: verga
Jesus’s sacrifice on the cross and subsequent rise from the grave occurred during the gospels. “Gospel” means good news and designates Jesus’s time on earth which is not the same distinction as the one you are trying to draw. The Bible is a living book, and is to be treated respectfully. It isn’t a chapter book written for your amusement. It’s not a play, but even so the curtain was rent.
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posted on
02/25/2015 12:02:26 PM PST
by
BlackAdderess
("Give me a but a firm spot on which to stand, and I shall move the earth". --Archimedes)
To: verga; Elsie; boatbums; metmom; Iscool; daniel1212; Resettozero; WXRGina; Alex Murphy; ...
Am I understanding correctly that you are saying the Gospels, written after the death Resurrection and Ascension, are really OT? Is that so hard to understand?? They are written HISTORICALLY about a time before the NEW COVENANT ...now as a good catholic you should know when Christ said there was now NEW COVENANT right?
The life of Christ..as recorded in the scriptures ... is His life under the OLD TESTAMENT
Jesus needed to keep the whole OLD COVENANT law perfectly ...He was the only one who could...
The Gospels were a 'look back" at Christ and His teaching.. they were not contemporary .. the majority of what was written was before the New Testament (Covenant) was instituted..at the Last.......yea you know
I am not saying that they should be 'replaced" in the OT... I am simply saying they record the life of Christ BEFORE THE NEW COVENANT and therefore reflect OT laws..
90
posted on
02/25/2015 12:28:01 PM PST
by
RnMomof7
To: RnMomof7
Hebrews 4:12
For the word of God is alive and active. Sharper than any double-edged sword, it penetrates even to dividing soul and spirit, joints and marrow, it judges the thoughts and attitudes of the heart.
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posted on
02/25/2015 12:29:37 PM PST
by
BlackAdderess
("Give me a but a firm spot on which to stand, and I shall move the earth". --Archimedes)
To: CynicalBear; verga
Rightly dividing the word of God seems foreign to Catholics. Matthew 5:25-26 is talking about settling disputes or matters HERE ON EARTH with each other prior to making a sacrifice. The "sacrifice" He was talking about was the sacrifice of the Old Testament covenant.No it is "foolishness" to the perishing
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posted on
02/25/2015 12:29:37 PM PST
by
RnMomof7
To: verga
Mat 5:19 Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven: but whosoever shall do and teach them, the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven. Ever break a commandment???
Mat 5:20 For I say unto you, That except your righteousness shall exceed the righteousness of the scribes and Pharisees, ye shall in no case enter into the kingdom of heaven.
I am going to make a guess that you are never going to make it...Your righteousness will never exceed the righteousness of the Pharisees and scribes...You may as well give up...
Mat 5:22 But I say unto you, That whosoever is angry with his brother without a cause shall be in danger of the judgment: and whosoever shall say to his brother, Raca, shall be in danger of the council: but whosoever shall say, Thou fool, shall be in danger of hell fire.
More of the same...
Mat 5:23 Therefore if thou bring thy gift to the altar, and there rememberest that thy brother hath ought against thee;
Mat 5:24 Leave there thy gift before the altar, and go thy way; first be reconciled to thy brother, and then come and offer thy gift.
What kinds of gifts do you Catholics bring to the altar??? What altar???
Mat 5:25 Agree with thine adversary quickly, whiles thou art in the way with him; lest at any time the adversary deliver thee to the judge, and the judge deliver thee to the officer, and thou be cast into prison.
Mat 5:26 Verily I say unto thee, Thou shalt by no means come out thence, till thou hast paid the uttermost farthing.
And what prison would that be??? Is your phoney purgatory a prison??? Can people be sent to hell and then pay their way out??? How much money or farthings does it take to get out of this prison???
You see any Gentiles in the bunch??? You ever notice there's not even a church within miles (or years) from there??? Do you realize these people are under the law and there's no grace involved anywhere there???
And it's obvious you don't have any idea what the Kingdom of Heaven is...
What happened after that is Jesus died, on the Cross...He became our sacrifice so people wouldn't have to go to prison for their sin...After these here Jews rejected Jesus, he went to the Gentiles (who these Jews were forbidden to even talk to) and offered them a free ride to heaven...Without the law...By Jesus' grace it was a free gift...One only had to believe in and trust Jesus...
Christians are covered by grace...We don't need any farthings...Jesus paid it all...
All you need is a bible and a Protestant to help you learn what God says to you...
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posted on
02/25/2015 12:31:25 PM PST
by
Iscool
To: redleghunter; verga
The New Covenant is in Jesus Christs Blood. So to put it more clearly EVERY Gospel account BEFORE the Cross and Empty Tomb must be seen in their light. So more accurately, yes the ministry of Christ as recorded in the Gospels is during the Old Covenant but the events of His death and resurrection and glorification define the New Covenant.Thank you... it seems beyond their understanding ..they still live under the law so they can not understand this concept
94
posted on
02/25/2015 12:32:21 PM PST
by
RnMomof7
To: RnMomof7
Whoops, sorry Rn Mom, meant to address that as a follow-up to verge.
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posted on
02/25/2015 12:32:31 PM PST
by
BlackAdderess
("Give me a but a firm spot on which to stand, and I shall move the earth". --Archimedes)
To: redleghunter
Paul, a servant of Jesus Christ, called to be an apostle, separated unto the gospel of God, (Which he had promised afore by his prophets in the holy scriptures,) (Romans 1:1-2) But now is made manifest, and by the scriptures of the prophets, according to the commandment of the everlasting God, made known to all nations for the obedience of faith: (Romans 16:26)
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posted on
02/25/2015 12:34:42 PM PST
by
daniel1212
(Come to the Lord Jesus as a contrite damned+destitute sinner, trust Him to save you, then live 4 Him)
To: taxcontrol
I hope you are wrong that few protestants understand the prophetic relevance of the OT and the new
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posted on
02/25/2015 12:36:31 PM PST
by
RnMomof7
To: metmom
even as the testimony about Christ was confirmed among youso that you are not lacking in any gift, as you wait for the revealing of our Lord Jesus Christ, who will sustain you to the end, guiltless in the day of our Lord Jesus Christ. That's quite the guarantee right there - 'who will sustain us till the end, guiltless in the day of our Lord Jesus Christ'...
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posted on
02/25/2015 12:37:05 PM PST
by
Iscool
To: redleghunter
99
posted on
02/25/2015 12:37:25 PM PST
by
RnMomof7
To: RnMomof7; verga; Elsie; boatbums; metmom; Iscool; daniel1212; Resettozero; WXRGina; Alex Murphy
>>I am simply saying they record the life of Christ BEFORE THE NEW COVENANT and therefore reflect OT laws..<<
Catholics seem to totally miss that don't they. And Christ didn't institute the new covenant at the last supper either. He said His broken body and shed blood was the start of the new covenant and that didn't happen until the next day.
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posted on
02/25/2015 12:42:09 PM PST
by
CynicalBear
(For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus)
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