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Repentance
My Utmost For His Higest ^
| Dec.7,2014
| Oswald Chambers
Posted on 02/24/2015 2:52:23 PM PST by RnMomof7
Conviction of sin is best described in the words:
My sins, my sins, my Savior,
How sad on Thee they fall.
Conviction of sin is one of the most uncommon things that ever happens to a person. It is the beginning of an understanding of God. Jesus Christ said that when the Holy Spirit came He would convict people of sin (see John 16:8). And when the Holy Spirit stirs a persons conscience and brings him into the presence of God, it is not that persons relationship with others that bothers him but his relationship with God Against You, You only, have I sinned, and done this evil in your sight
(Psalm 51:4). The wonders of conviction of sin, forgiveness, and holiness are so interwoven that it is only the forgiven person who is truly holy. He proves he is forgiven by being the opposite of what he was previously, by the grace of God. Repentance always brings a person to the point of saying, I have sinned. The surest sign that God is at work in his life is when he says that and means it. Anything less is simply sorrow for having made foolish mistakes a reflex action caused by self-disgust.
The entrance into the kingdom of God is through the sharp, sudden pains of repentance colliding with mans respectable goodness. Then the Holy Spirit, who produces these struggles, begins the formation of the Son of God in the persons life (see Galatians 4:19). This new life will reveal itself in conscious repentance followed by unconscious holiness, never the other way around. The foundation of Christianity is repentance. Strictly speaking, a person cannot repent when he chooses repentance is a gift of God. The old Puritans used to pray for the gift of tears. If you ever cease to understand the value of repentance, you allow yourself to remain in sin. Examine yourself to see if you have forgotten how to be truly repentant.
TOPICS: Evangelical Christian; Mainline Protestant; Theology; Worship
KEYWORDS: faith; repentance; salvation
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To: CynicalBear
Post 60, Matthew was written AFTER the Resurrection.
61
posted on
02/25/2015 7:11:07 AM PST
by
verga
(I might as well be playing Chess with a pigeon.)
To: verga
Matthew very clearly states that there is atonement to be made after Christs death and Resurrection.
Okay. Thanks.
(Where in Matthew's Gospel did you draw your erroneous intrepretation.)
To: verga; Resettozero
>>Matthew very clearly states that there is atonement to be made after Christs death and Resurrection.<<
Not by man. Christ was the only and complete atonement for sin.
63
posted on
02/25/2015 7:18:40 AM PST
by
CynicalBear
(For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus)
To: verga; CynicalBear; Resettozero
So you are saying the Bible is wrong, or didn't Jesus and Matthew get the memo? Could we please have your citation ??
Here's the problem verga ..the gospels are actually OLD testament.. as they are retrospect on the life and work of Christ ..they are for the most part covering the time and work of Christ under the OT law .
Jesus had to keep that OT law PERFECTLY... but the NT started on Pentecost...
64
posted on
02/25/2015 7:28:29 AM PST
by
RnMomof7
To: RnMomof7
...but the NT started on Pentecost...
Pretty amazing, that. Nine o-clock in the morning and they begin speaking in a way or ways that make the ancestors of today's Roman Catholics accuse them of being drunk on new wine. Yet, everybody from everywhere heard them glorifying God in THEIR OWN INDIVIDUAL DOWN-HOME DIALECT!
Ain't that somethin', y'all?
To: Resettozero
Go back up the thread till you see the scripture from Matthew I posted. You just let every one know that you leaped to a conclusion with out following the conversation.
66
posted on
02/25/2015 7:35:41 AM PST
by
verga
(I might as well be playing Chess with a pigeon.)
To: verga
You just let every one know that you leaped to a conclusion with out following the conversation.
Okay. Thanks for your help.
To: CynicalBear
Not by man. Christ was the only and complete atonement for sin. My last post on the subject: Then why does Matthew record Christ (And He knew that He was to die for our sins) say that WE smut pay every last cent?
68
posted on
02/25/2015 7:43:03 AM PST
by
verga
(I might as well be playing Chess with a pigeon.)
To: RnMomof7
Could we please have your citation ??The Citation is given up thread.
Here's the problem verga ..the gospels are actually OLD testament.. as they are retrospect on the life and work of Christ ..they are for the most part covering the time and work of Christ under the OT law .
Jesus had to keep that OT law PERFECTLY... but the NT started on Pentecost...
Am I understanding correctly that you are saying the Gospels, written after the death Resurrection and Ascension, are really OT?
Please poll your fellow non-Catholics and see how they feel about that statement.
69
posted on
02/25/2015 7:48:07 AM PST
by
verga
(I might as well be playing Chess with a pigeon.)
To: verga; RnMomof7
Am I understanding correctly that you are saying the Gospels, written after the death Resurrection and Ascension, are really OT?
Whether OT or NT, those words are Spirit and they are LIFE.
Thanks for your time today, verga; don't want to keep you here more than you feel you should.
To: terycarl
Christ instituted a sacrament covering this subject...The sacrament of reconciliation or penance brings Catholics back to a state of grace after forgiving their sins when they confess those sins and show true repentance for them. Jesus paid the penance, in full, for everyone that comes to him...
71
posted on
02/25/2015 7:56:51 AM PST
by
Iscool
To: Resettozero; RnMomof7
Rnmomof7 comment post 64:
Here's the problem verga ..the gospels are actually OLD testament.. as they are retrospect on the life and work of Christ ..they are for the most part covering the time and work of Christ under the OT law .Do you agree with this statement?
72
posted on
02/25/2015 8:05:35 AM PST
by
verga
(I might as well be playing Chess with a pigeon.)
To: verga
>>Then why does Matthew record Christ (And He knew that He was to die for our sins) say that WE smut pay every last cent?<<
Rightly dividing the word of God seems foreign to Catholics. Matthew 5:25-26 is talking about settling disputes or matters HERE ON EARTH with each other prior to making a sacrifice. The "sacrifice" He was talking about was the sacrifice of the Old Testament covenant.
73
posted on
02/25/2015 8:10:51 AM PST
by
CynicalBear
(For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus)
To: RnMomof7; Elsie; boatbums; metmom; Iscool; daniel1212; Resettozero; WXRGina; Alex Murphy; ...
Rn mom of 7's statement post #64:
Here's the problem verga ..the gospels are actually OLD testament.. as they are retrospect on the life and work of Christ ..they are for the most part covering the time and work of Christ under the OT law .1) Do any of you agree with this?
2) Is this understanding held by non-Catholics?
3) Have you seen this before or been taught this, and if so where, when, and by whom?
74
posted on
02/25/2015 8:40:13 AM PST
by
verga
(I might as well be playing Chess with a pigeon.)
To: verga; CynicalBear; RnMomof7; Resettozero; Elsie; boatbums; metmom; Iscool; daniel1212; WXRGina; ...
Rnmomof7's statement post #64:
Here's the problem verga ..the gospels are actually OLD testament.. as they are retrospect on the life and work of Christ ..they are for the most part covering the time and work of Christ under the OT law . 1) Do any of you agree with this?
2) Is this understanding held by non-Catholics?
3) Have you seen this before or been taught this, and if so where, when, and by whom?
Re verga's post #56, which started this sidebar:
[Cynical Bear:] And Christ's sacrifice on that cross paid every last cent owed. [verga:] So you are saying the Bible is wrong, or didn't Jesus and Matthew get the memo?
Do Catholics believe that Christ's sacrifice on the cross
didn't pay every last cent owed? Or is that belief just yours?
75
posted on
02/25/2015 8:53:02 AM PST
by
Alex Murphy
("the defacto Leader of the FR Calvinist Protestant Brigades")
To: verga; RnMomof7; Elsie; boatbums; metmom; Iscool; daniel1212; Resettozero; WXRGina; Alex Murphy
We both received the same Catholic raising and education growing up. So I know you know the context to RNMomof7’s comments. Yes I read the previous posts.
The New Covenant is in Jesus Christ’s Blood. So to put it more clearly EVERY Gospel account BEFORE the Cross and Empty Tomb must be seen in their light. So more accurately, yes the ministry of Christ as recorded in the Gospels is during the Old Covenant but the events of His death and resurrection and glorification define the New Covenant.
The Gospels are rightly placed in the NT canon as Christ’s birth, life and ministry all point to the Cross and Empty Tomb.
76
posted on
02/25/2015 9:25:16 AM PST
by
redleghunter
(He expounded unto them in all the scriptures the things concerning Himself. Lk24)
To: Alex Murphy
Nice try at twisting my words, Post the scripture I quoted, so you don’t appear more duplicitous.
77
posted on
02/25/2015 10:20:16 AM PST
by
verga
(I might as well be playing Chess with a pigeon.)
To: redleghunter; RnMomof7
That is not what she said at all. I read nothing into her comments and took them at face value.
If she meant something else than she needs to clarify it.
78
posted on
02/25/2015 10:22:37 AM PST
by
verga
(I might as well be playing Chess with a pigeon.)
To: verga
Nice try at twisting my wordsLOL I posted your words verbatim. They were twisted when I got there!
Post the scripture I quoted, so you dont appear more duplicitous.
There was no quote of Scripture in your post. Maybe it's the splitting up of your thoughts across multiple posts that comes off as duplicitous.
79
posted on
02/25/2015 10:33:41 AM PST
by
Alex Murphy
("the defacto Leader of the FR Calvinist Protestant Brigades")
To: Alex Murphy
MY quote referred directly to another post and any one with an IQ over room temperature can see ... Oh I apologize.. I forgot who I was speaking to.
80
posted on
02/25/2015 10:36:33 AM PST
by
verga
(I might as well be playing Chess with a pigeon.)
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