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To: NKP_Vet
2.“Catholics pray to Mary instead of God.” This is a very common misconception throughout the Protestant community, and while I can understand why it is, I am also disheartened that many jump to such a harsh conclusion of the Catholic faith. We don’t pray to Mary, we ask her to pray for us, just as a Protestant asks their deceased grandparent/parent to watch over them.

Catholics consider prayer as not necessarily worship. The Catholic considers prayer as a personal spiritual conversation, or is some cases communal prayer.

When a Catholic is at Mass he or she prays, but at the moment of the raising of the Host, that is when a Catholic "worships" the Body of Jesus present at that point in time.

So, to ask the Mother of Jesus for help is NOT worship, it is a spiritual conversation.

Huge difference.

Protestants do not have a Eucharist to "worship" so their entire service is a "worship" service.

So when a Protestant prays he or she is "worshipping" God.

The words "worship" and "prayer" mean different things to the Catholic and the Protestant.

9 posted on 02/20/2015 3:47:27 PM PST by Slyfox (I tremble for my country when I reflect that God is just: that his justice cannot sleep for ever)
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To: Slyfox

I can’t belief what I saw at the Catholic cemetery where my parents are buried. Inside the mausoleum part, where bodies are stacked indoors, people leave cards and letters to the dead as if during the night, they all crawl out of their crypts and read the stuff, probably to each other.


16 posted on 02/20/2015 3:58:34 PM PST by Old Yeller (Civil rights are for civilized people.)
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To: Slyfox

we don’t have to worship a wafer. We worship the living God who offered Himself once for all, not who is perpetually sacrificed on RCC altars. And before you go there, I believe in the real presence of the Body and Blood in communion. But I don’t worship the elements, I worship the ONE present in the elements.


132 posted on 02/20/2015 8:08:44 PM PST by Mom MD
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To: Slyfox

I got an email newsletter from an LCMS church that I haven’t attended in a while and itt alked about the “new” worship leader and I couldn’t figure out what it was talking about. I knew a new pastor had not been called and I didn’t understand why the head pastor was not leading the service. Then I figured out that they were referring to the music portion of the contemporary service as being the worship and this person was the new music leader. I had always considered pretty much the whole of the traditional service as a worship

Anyway, I know who my enemies are and they aren’t Catholic.


139 posted on 02/20/2015 8:45:41 PM PST by Roos_Girl (The world is full of educated derelicts. - Calvin Coolidge)
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To: Slyfox

“So, to ask the Mother of Jesus for help is NOT worship, it is a spiritual conversation.”

O Lady, since thou art the dispenser of all graces, and since the grace of salvation can only come through they hands, our salvation depends on thee.
St.Bernardine of Sienna (1381-1444)

”It is impossible to save one’s soul without devotion to Mary and without her protection.” -Saint Anselm, Archbishop and Doctor of the Church, 1033-1109 AD

“He has set in her the fullness of all good; in such manner that all we have of hope, all of grace, all of salvation, all—I say and let us doubt it not—flows to us from her.” St. Bernard: Sermo de Aquaeductu, Ibid, p 12

That’s just three I could go on, but you are not kidding anyone except you and your very own.


259 posted on 02/21/2015 7:37:33 PM PST by mrobisr
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