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To: CynicalBear
>>It must be difficult being a catholic.<< They are to even subject their intellect to the pope.

no they don't...

178 posted on 02/20/2015 7:14:49 PM PST by terycarl (common sense prevails overall!)
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To: terycarl
>>no they don't...<<

So you would disagree with this?

Canon 752: “While the assent of faith is not required, a religious submission of intellect and will is to be given to any doctrine which either the Supreme Pontiff or the College of Bishops, exercising their authentic Magisterium, declare upon a matter of faith or morals, even though they do not intend to proclaim that doctrine by definitive act. Christ's faithful are therefore to ensure that they avoid whatever does not accord with that doctrine.”

Or this?

Canon 753: “While not infallible in their teaching, [Catholic bishops] are the authentic instructors and teachers of the faith for Christ's faithful entrusted to their care. The faithful are bound to adhere, with a religious submission of mind, to this authentic Magisterium of their Bishops.”

Or this?

An essential aspect of internal Catholic practice therefore requires that the Catholic give religious submission of mind and will to the authentic Magisterium of the Pope and this even if he is not speaking ex cathedra. An essential component of internal Catholic practice is that the Pope's ordinary teaching at a minimum must be religiously submitted to by both intellect and will. (I say at minimum, because if infallible teaching is involved, whether in ordinary or extraordinary mode, the full assent of faith, or theological assent, is required. This is something much more than religious submission.) [http://www.catholic.org/news/hf/faith/story.php?id=49496]

Or this?

"In matters of faith and morals," Lumen Gentium states, "the bishops speak in the name of Christ and the faithful are to accept their teaching and adhere to it with a religious assent. This religious submission of mind and will must be shown in a special way to the authentic magisterium of the Roman Pontiff, even when he is not speaking ex cathedra; that is, it must be shown in such a way that his supreme magisterium is acknowledged with reverence, the judgments made by him are sincerely adhered to, according to his manifest mind and will. His mind and will in the matter may be known either from the character of the documents, from his frequent repetition of the same doctrine, or from his manner of speaking." (LG, No. 25)

185 posted on 02/20/2015 7:57:26 PM PST by CynicalBear (For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus)
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To: terycarl

Gotta have it before ya can subject it!


203 posted on 02/21/2015 4:01:45 AM PST by Elsie
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To: terycarl
no they don't...

I see; then you get to be your OWN pope; right?

206 posted on 02/21/2015 4:06:27 AM PST by Elsie
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