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Reflections: My Neighbour The Catholic
Banner of Truth Trust ^ | January 31, 2006 | Carl Muller

Posted on 02/20/2015 12:24:08 PM PST by Gamecock

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To: Gamecock
Why is it that supposed "Christians" waste their and our time with attacks on fellow Christians?

Is it just insecurity in their own faith or is it the more likely the work of the devil?

Here we have nearly continuous onslaughts by atheists in our schools and our courts and vicious attacks by radical Muslims and we still have Christians-of-some-sort going after Catholics.

I'm sure the devil is thrilled.

21 posted on 02/20/2015 1:31:55 PM PST by Chainmail (A simple rule of life: if you can be blamed, you're responsible.)
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To: Gamecock

Yes, but don’t forget to pray for the people who spread ignorant nonsense like “Catholics believe in salvation by works”.


22 posted on 02/20/2015 1:39:38 PM PST by Campion
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To: Gamecock

What if Mary had said “no”?


23 posted on 02/20/2015 1:40:23 PM PST by Ge0ffrey
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To: Chainmail

Agreed. I always told my boys that for any action you take, you have to ask if it pleases Jesus or pleases Satan. It’s going to be one or the other.

Vile attacks of Christian against Christian pleases only one of them.

It’s really disgusting.


24 posted on 02/20/2015 1:49:24 PM PST by ImaGraftedBranch (If you haven't figured it out, there is a great falling away...happening before your eyes.)
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To: Gamecock

And here I thought islamists were the enemy.


25 posted on 02/20/2015 1:50:26 PM PST by onedoug
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To: CynicalBear

CynicalBear I will not play the banter game with you, Your Free will can guide you as it seems to be, I will however leave with these thoughts:
Did/do you interpret the scriptures on your own? Did you Seek someone else? What Made you or they whom you sought so much more inspired than the thousandth of years of our Christian Ancestry? For well over a 1000 years individual inspired interpretations were (Rightfully) called Heresy, Why now is that different?

When reproving sinners:
Matthew 18:17-18(rsv)
“If he refuses to listen to them, tell it to the church; and if he refuses to listen even to the church, let him be to you as a Gentile and a tax collector.
Truly, I say to you, whatever you bind on earth shall be bound in heaven, and whatever you loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven.”

The Church had to have Authority for if not this is wasted words.

Matthew 28:17-20(rsv) Commissioning of the Disciples
And Jesus came and said to them, “All authority in heaven and on earth has been given to me.
Go therefore and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit,
teaching them to observe all that I have commanded you; and lo, I am with you always, to the close of the age.”

Why did Jesus give Authority to begin with if it were to only be disregarded?

John 14:25-26 The Promise of the Holy Spirit
“These things I have spoken to you, while I am still with you.
But the Counselor, the Holy Spirit, whom the Father will send in my name, he will teach you all things, and bring to your remembrance all that I have said to you.

The Lord Said it would happen and we Christians acknowledge it happen when we recognized Pentecost.

God Bless and may he Guide you Back into his Arms.


26 posted on 02/20/2015 2:08:59 PM PST by jafojeffsurf (Return to the Constitution)
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To: Chainmail

“I’m sure the devil is thrilled.”

Oh So True!

God Bless


27 posted on 02/20/2015 2:11:05 PM PST by jafojeffsurf (Return to the Constitution)
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To: Chainmail; Gamecock; ImaGraftedBranch; All
Why is it that supposed "Christians" waste their and our time with attacks on fellow Christians? Is it just insecurity in their own faith or is it the more likely the work of the devil? Here we have nearly continuous onslaughts by atheists in our schools and our courts and vicious attacks by radical Muslims and we still have Christians-of-some-sort going after Catholics. I'm sure the devil is thrilled.

What actually amazes me is the utter religious hypocrisy exhibited in these statements...

What do I mean? Well, see here if you like the Rx you prescribe:

Why is it that supposed "Christians" waste their and our time with attacks on fellow Christians (like the ones above upon Gamecock & generic others on this thread)?

Is it just insecurity in their own faith or is it the more likely the work of the devil? Here we have nearly continuous onslaughts by atheists in our schools and our courts and vicious attacks by radical Muslims and we still have Christians-of-some-sort going after fellow FREEPERs who are Christians --like Gamecock/others as do the above comments.

I'm sure the devil is thrilled.

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ALL: Beware the tolerance-meisters who preach one thing, yet everything they practice in a post & aim toward other religionists could actually be applied to their own screed response, if they bothered to drink their own Rx dosages.

It's as if they think they alone have the upper-hand license to go on the offense vs. others' religious expression.

As for me, I really don't find "tolerance" as a virtue to be found in Scripture. I find plenty of patience called for...but the Bible doesn't say "tolerate" falsehoods even among Christians who may still believe most Catholics are their Christian brothers.

28 posted on 02/20/2015 2:18:01 PM PST by Colofornian (When the Truth can hurt you, you do everything you can to keep the Truth from light of day...)
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To: jafojeffsurf

(Parts of Post #28 might be worth a read)


29 posted on 02/20/2015 2:18:43 PM PST by Colofornian (When the Truth can hurt you, you do everything you can to keep the Truth from light of day...)
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To: Colofornian

I’m not convinced that you are actually Christian. Sad, isn’t?


30 posted on 02/20/2015 2:26:09 PM PST by Chainmail (A simple rule of life: if you can be blamed, you're responsible.)
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To: Chainmail; Gamecock; ImaGraftedBranch; All
Why is it that supposed "Christians" waste their and our time with attacks on fellow Christians? Is it just insecurity in their own faith or is it the more likely the work of the devil? Here we have nearly continuous onslaughts by atheists in our schools and our courts and vicious attacks by radical Muslims and we still have Christians-of-some-sort going after Catholics. I'm sure the devil is thrilled.

Please explain why your attack above upon other religionists doesn't constitute a waste [of] their and our time?

Are you so insecure in your own faith that you couldn't just let this thread pass?

Or does your labeling of others' religious expressions as "the work of the devil" itself a work of the devil? ..Even simply using your OWN very definitional boundaries upon which you attack and imply (that others who attack other religionists are engaging in the "work of the devil")

Since we indeed have nearly continuous onslaughts by atheists in our schools and our courts and vicious attacks by radical Muslims, and if you do have some sort of Christian identity, not sure why you're going after Gamecock and other generic posters on this thread.

Why aren't you taking on atheists in our schools & courts & the radical Muslims if you're standard is that to communicate negatively to other groups is some sort of distraction?
Why are you taking on fellow conservative FREEPERs if your standard is to remain focused on these other threats?
Aren't you thereby setting a poor example for the rest of us? Doesn't your critique belie what you say you stand for?

Is the devil thrilled with your vehement attack on this thread?

Why are your attacks upon others' religious free expression beyond application for your very own religious standards?

And if Gamecock or others are supposed to answer your rhetoric, where might you get off escaping these same questions?

31 posted on 02/20/2015 2:30:53 PM PST by Colofornian (When the Truth can hurt you, you do everything you can to keep the Truth from light of day...)
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To: Colofornian

Wow. Did you read the original thread? Notice anything vaguely antagonistic ?

Don’t think the attacked parties should respond as they see it?

You don’t mind terribly if I find your response odd?


32 posted on 02/20/2015 2:35:48 PM PST by Chainmail (A simple rule of life: if you can be blamed, you're responsible.)
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To: Ge0ffrey
What if Mary had said “no”?

Yeah, that would have really caught God by surprise. He would have had to go to plan B.
33 posted on 02/20/2015 2:37:44 PM PST by Old Yeller (Civil rights are for civilized people.)
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To: Old Yeller

LOL!


34 posted on 02/20/2015 2:39:14 PM PST by ClearCase_guy (The dog days are over /The dog days are done/Can you hear the horses? /'Cause here they come)
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To: RnMomof7
"One is not Born into being a Christian, nor baptized into being a Christian, not "churched" /educated into being a Christian. One must be born again of God..to be HIS child."

Good words...

35 posted on 02/20/2015 2:39:31 PM PST by Dutchboy88
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To: Chainmail
Sad, isn't it

(Yup...if you know very little about me or haven't taken the time to assess at least my broader faith -- my faith identity -- and judge them as a 100% total stranger as to whether I am in Christ or not...without either studying what I believe or at least be willing to interact with me...very sad indeed!)

By all means oppose whatever content you think runs counter to Christianity...including anything issued from me...Beyond that, I don't think you are included in the verse: "I am the Way, the Truth, and the Life. No one comes to the Father except by me" (JC, John 14:6)

36 posted on 02/20/2015 2:41:42 PM PST by Colofornian (When the Truth can hurt you, you do everything you can to keep the Truth from light of day...)
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To: pgyanke

I agree, I pray for them as well.

Why do you become so exercised at the Catholic Church and Our practices?

I don’t critique your practices and expression of faith, why do you find mine so vexing?


37 posted on 02/20/2015 2:51:11 PM PST by Rumplemeyer (The GOP should stand its ground - and fix Bayonets)
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To: Rumplemeyer

You may want to look at my profile and then re-read my post to Gamecock. You’ve misinterpreted.


38 posted on 02/20/2015 2:53:22 PM PST by pgyanke (Republicans get in trouble when not living up to their principles. Democrats... when they do.)
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To: RnMomof7
The Pharisees all knew the scriptures too .. it is not knowledge of the scriptures that saves.. it is the one of whom they write that saves..

I was having breakfast with the local Catholic priest and a few family members one morning and we were talking about our favorite Bible passage. I said mine was Ephesians 2:8,9:

For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: Not of works, lest any man should boast.

The priest's response was, "That sounds Protestant to me.".

I must say I was surprised seeing as the Catholic Douay-Rheims Bible says it almost identically:

For by grace you are saved through faith, and that not of yourselves, for it is the gift of God; Not of works, that no man may glory.

You are quite correct about the difference between knowing the word of God and knowing the Word/Jesus.

39 posted on 02/20/2015 2:56:21 PM PST by boatbums (God is ready to assume full responsibility for the life wholly yielded to Him.)
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To: RnMomof7
The Pharisees all knew the scriptures too

Why do you have to be so insulting?

40 posted on 02/20/2015 3:05:54 PM PST by Slyfox (I tremble for my country when I reflect that God is just: that his justice cannot sleep for ever)
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