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To: redleghunter
What makes you think people are not going in the water.

They say it's a "work", and they don't do "works" for forgiveness. You don't have to read far on FR to find that.

Even many of those who've been baptized say they were baptized AFTER the forgiveness of their sins. (Maybe they think Naaman dipped in the water AFTER his leprosy was cured? Maybe Noah was saved by water AFTER the flood was over?)

Doesn't it seem strange that even though the Bible says baptism is for forgiveness of sins, people don't believe it? It's as much for forgiveness of sins as the blood of Christ is.

Well, maybe it's not so strange. After all, Jesus said the preaching of the gospel would sort people into two categories: (1) those who would believe and be baptized, and (2) those who would not believe.

So the disciple's job is to preach the gospel to those who haven't heard it, and let the hearers decide whether they want to be saved or damned.
128 posted on 02/22/2015 4:39:03 PM PST by LearsFool ("Thou shouldst not have been old, till thou hadst been wise.")
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To: LearsFool

Sounds like the water, a creation, is a miraculous element for you.

Perhaps getting in the water the answer of a good conscience toward God, by the resurrection of Jesus Christ?

Frankly IMO we should not be separating the works of Christ’s righteousness into some formula.

We know we are justified by faith and saved by God’s Grace. That the Blood of Jesus Christ cleanses us from all sins.

We know whom he did foreknow, he also did predestinate to be conformed to the image of his Son, that he might be the firstborn among many brethren.

Moreover whom he did predestinate, them he also called: and whom he called, them he also justified: and whom he justified, them he also glorified.

We also know that those in the NT and ages which followed who had faith/trust in the aforementioned got in the water to share in the death and resurrection of Jesus Christ.

If a person administering water saves another person, then we should head to the prisons and saloons with fire hoses and get them wet.


130 posted on 02/22/2015 8:34:50 PM PST by redleghunter (He expounded unto them in all the scriptures the things concerning Himself. Lk24)
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