Posted on 02/19/2015 2:22:29 PM PST by NRx
VATICAN CITY - The event took place on Tuesday, February 10, but the Pope made it known only today during the meeting with the clergy of Rome. During the regular mass at the Domus Sanctae Marthae, Bergoglio faced the issue of the marriage of priests.
At the celebration, there were seven preiests who were celebrating their 50th anniversary of priesthood, but also five priests who left the ministry due to marriage. Following the question of one of the priests who were present, Fr. Giovanni Cereti, on the issue of married priests (in which was recalled the case of the Eastern Churches, where married men can be ordained priests, and the thousands of married priests of the Latin Rite who on the other hand cannot celebrate0, Bergoglio answered surprisingly: "The problem," Francis assured in his response, "is present in my agenda."
Will that include gay marriage too? You know that’s coming.
Not true. Men can only marry in the Eastern Churches before they become priests. Never after.
Ummm I think that’s what he said.
with all the appropriate apologies - Will no one rid me of this turbulent pontiff?
Yikes, you’re right; I read it as the opposite. Thanks for pointing that out.
Don’t you sometimes wish there was a delete button?
The former is innocuous. It could suggest nothing more than a restatement of the status quo.
The latter is cause for concern. It indicates that the status quo is unacceptable and the only question which remains is how to remedy the "problem".
I sympathize. And yes, frequently.
Wait, Francis has an agenda?
Well bowl me over....
true, probably a good choice.
The Google Translate says “Problem”.
You know, if this change was being considered by a true Catholic pope, I wouldn’t have a problem with it. After all, it is only a church discipline. However, this is just one more thing this man wishes to change. This is just one more thing the non-Catholic modernists wish to change.
My Roman Catholic pastor told me that the gay clergy in the Church opposed married priests.
we have the obola king and we have this Pope.....its a perfect storm....
Actually, it’s not just a matter of “discipline.”
Cf. the blog of Dr. Edward Peters on the subject of clerical continence.
First of all, it is necessary to get the terms right. Anyone who is unmarried is “celibate.” For some reason, the popular press never uses the term “continent,” always misusing the term “celibate” instead.
The tradition, going back to the Apostles, is that all men in Orders must be perpetually and perfectly continent—whether married or unmmarried.
Canon Law on this subject is clear, and is in perfect continuity over the centuries: All Deacons, Priests, and Bishops are bound to perpetual, perfect continence. The restoration of the permanent diaconate by Paul VI brought about NO CHANGE in Canon Law on this subject.
Far from being a “mere discipline,” the perpetual continence of all clerics is intimately bound up with the nuptial meaning of the Eucharistic Sacrifice and the Church’s Eucharistic Realism.
If Francis entertains fantasies of a married priesthood, then it’s just one more example of his uneducated, bull-in-a-china-shop approach to deep issues of Catholic theology.
The issue is on his agenda ... he didn’t say allowing it is on his agenda.
Context, people.
But I’m talking about married clergy being a discipline, not celibacy/continence.
Are you saying that unmarried clergy is not a discipline?
No, he stated the “Problem” is on his agenda.
The belief that the question is doctrinal in nature is one that I believe is very much in the minority in the Roman Church. Further your statements are contradicted by the existence of married clergy in the Eastern Churches, including those in communion with the Roman See.
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