Evangelical Angst About Ash Wednesday

Aleteia ^ | February 17, 2015 | DAVID MILLS

[Gamecock]

Dang. Beat me to it.

[verga]

Thank you for proving me spot on absolutely 100% correct.

[metmom]

It's all about Jesus.....

Colossians 1:27 To them God chose to make known how great among the Gentiles are the riches of the glory of this mystery, which is Christ in you, the hope of glory.

Galatians 2:20 I have been crucified with Christ. It is no longer I who live, but Christ who lives in me. And the life I now live in the flesh I live by faith in the Son of God, who loved me and gave himself for me.

Hebrews 12:1-2 Therefore, since we are surrounded by so great a cloud of witnesses, let us also lay aside every weight, and sin which clings so closely, and let us run with endurance the race that is set before us, looking to Jesus, the founder and perfecter of our faith, who for the joy that was set before him endured the cross, despising the shame, and is seated at the right hand of the throne of God.

Philippians 3:8-9 Indeed, I count everything as loss because of the surpassing worth of knowing Christ Jesus my Lord. For his sake I have suffered the loss of all things and count them as rubbish, in order that I may gain Christ and be found in him, not having a righteousness of my own that comes from the law, but that which comes through faith in Christ, the righteousness from God that depends on faith—

1 Corinthians 1:30-31And because of him you are in Christ Jesus, who became to us wisdom from God, righteousness and sanctification and redemption, so that, as it is written, “Let the one who boasts, boast in the Lord.”

1 Corinthians 2:2 For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus Christ and him crucified.

Philippians 1:21 For to me to live is Christ, and to die is gain.

[miss marmelstein]

Yes, that is the legend. Her heart refused to burn. In those days, they always cleaned up after an execution to avoid the relics that might survive.

[CynicalBear]

Verily I say you have your reward.

[miss marmelstein]

Normal people have a sense of beauty and ritual. Fear of dead bodies is silly.

[miss marmelstein]

Catholic-haters just gotta hate. Not much you can do about it. I try to imagine a world where art is cursed at and reviled. I would die...

[miss marmelstein]

Death is satanic? Where do you people come up with this jive?

[CynicalBear]

>>Death is satanic? Where do you people come up with this jive?<<

Nice twist on words! It's the veneration of ancestors and worship of relics that is Satanic.

[miss marmelstein]

It’s proscribed for Catholics to get tattoos - we get that from the Jews who are also proscribed.

[metmom]

There’s nothing beautiful about a half decayed and rotten corpse and there’s nothing beautiful about the ritual of desecrating it.

It’s Satanic, plain and simple.

I can see, though that it will do no good to try to convince you that we do not fear death simply because normal people are repulsed by the macabre obsession with dead bodies that some people have.

[verga]

I can see, though that it will do no good to try to convince you that we do not fear death simply because normal people are repulsed by the macabre obsession with dead bodies that some people have.

Then why do the prots keep bringing it up?

[editor-surveyor]

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Stop blaming God for man’s sins.

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[miss marmelstein]

Just because you don’t understand it, doesn’t make it satanic.

[TheRightGuy]

I had been unchurched for almost 20 years when i returned to me hometown haunts in early ‘95.

I aghast when they promoted an ash wednesday service, mostly because in our neighborhood, lacking indians, we had had always played cowboys and catholics as kids.

I jumped the preacher and asked him what’s up. He told me that somtime in ‘70s the vatican called for a world ecumenical conference aiming to find more common areas for worship between catholics and protestants. A bunch were invited but IIRC only about 6 or 8 attended.

Ash Wednesdsy was approved as optional but noy mandatory for protestants Many have followed suit since.

[TheRightGuy]

I can promise you this; Evangelical churches ARE NOT observing Ash Wednesday.

I belong to Evangelical Covenant Church and indeed they are, not that I'm attenmding

[verga]

Stop blaming God for man’s sins.

Beauty is not a sin, neglecting God given talents is.

[Elsie]

I can point to the OPPOSITE!

[Elsie]

A very beautiful ritual.

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A young monk arrives at the monastery.

 

He is assigned to helping the other monks in copying the old canons and laws of the church, by hand.

He notices, however, that all of the monks are copying from copies, not from the original manuscript.

So the new monk goes to the Old Abbot to question this, pointing out that if someone made even a small error in the first copy, it would never be picked up!

In fact, that error would be continued in all of the subsequent copies.

"We have been copying from the copies for centuries, but you make a good point, my son."

He goes down into the dark caves under the monastery where the original manuscripts are held as archives, in a locked vault that hasn't been opened for hundreds of years. 

Hours go by and nobody sees the Old Abbot.

So the young monk gets worried and goes down to look for him. He sees the old monk banging his head against the wall and wailing. "We missed the R! We missed the R! We missed the bloody R!"

His forehead is all bloody and bruised and he is crying uncontrollably. The young monk asks the old Abbot, "What's wrong, father?"

With a choking voice, the old Abbot replies, "The word was...

'CELEBRATE!'"

[Elsie]

Ya know that is what you all claim, but I know what I have seen with my own two eyes, don't even get me started on the snake handling.

Another Catholic that does not believe the very words of Jesus.

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Mark 16:14-19

¹⁴ At length he appeared to the eleven as they were at table: and he upbraided them with their incredulity and hardness of heart, because they did not believe them who had seen him after he was risen again.

¹⁵ And he said to them: Go ye into the whole world, and preach the gospel to every creature.

¹⁶ He that believeth and is baptized, shall be saved: but he that believeth not shall be condemned.

¹⁷ And these signs shall follow them that believe: In my name they shall cast out devils: they shall speak with new tongues.

¹⁸ They shall take up serpents; and if they shall drink any deadly thing, it shall not hurt them: they shall lay their hands upon the sick, and they shall recover.

¹⁹ And the Lord Jesus, after he had spoken to them, was taken up into heaven, and sitteth on the right hand of God.